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This 996 bullshit is garbage. At a certain point, adding more hours actually decreases productivity. You have people that are overworked doing low quality work over a longer period of time rather than having rested/happier employees that are highly productive in a short amount of time.

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>Nine to five is still alive. Sort of. A new survey of labour-force data by Amory Gethin of the World Bank and Emmanuel Saez of the University of California, Berkeley finds that the world’s employed adult population works an average of 42 hours a week. This number contains multitudes. Gender, age and levels of economic development affect how many hours people work. Many jobs are not neatly packaged into five eight-hour days. But the 40-hour week is still a norm. How long people actually work is not the same as how long they ought to. Jobs, incomes and cultural norms vary so wildly that there is no right answer. But how you think about the optimal workweek does say something about the kind of manager you are.

This 996 bullshit is garbage. At a certain point, adding more hours actually decreases productivity. You have people that are overworked doing low quality work over a longer period of time rather than having rested/happier employees that are highly productive in a short amount of time. Archive: https://archive.today/5623J From the post: >>Nine to five is still alive. Sort of. A new survey of labour-force data by Amory Gethin of the World Bank and Emmanuel Saez of the University of California, Berkeley finds that the world’s employed adult population works an average of 42 hours a week. This number contains multitudes. Gender, age and levels of economic development affect how many hours people work. Many jobs are not neatly packaged into five eight-hour days. But the 40-hour week is still a norm. How long people actually work is not the same as how long they ought to. Jobs, incomes and cultural norms vary so wildly that there is no right answer. But how you think about the optimal workweek does say something about the kind of manager you are.
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I appreciate those words. I try to treat them with respect. I try to buy lunch every day, and bake that cost into projects. A few guys work by the hour, one guy works by the day. I told the "day pay" guy, some days we work 5 hours, you get paid a full day. Most days we work 8 hours. I am not gonna keep track of it, but for the 2-3 times a month we work 10 hours, I am gonna bank on you have been paid for that in spades, if you think you are working more than what maths out, come to me and lets run the numbers. Else, I'll pay you a fixed daily rate, I think the short days are more than the longs.

Lunch sometimes is almost equal to just paying them to not eat, but thats not the point, a mid-point in the day lets everyone reset, have a laugh, check their socials and shit, then get their head in the game.

Lunch is the most important part of the day....since you know your half done!

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All good points.

Pay for what the job is, get the damn job done. Give the ones working respect if they have earned it. Extras are appreciated but baking the cost into the job is a good thing to do. The customer needs the job done, you need good people to do a good job.