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This 996 bullshit is garbage. At a certain point, adding more hours actually decreases productivity. You have people that are overworked doing low quality work over a longer period of time rather than having rested/happier employees that are highly productive in a short amount of time.

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>Nine to five is still alive. Sort of. A new survey of labour-force data by Amory Gethin of the World Bank and Emmanuel Saez of the University of California, Berkeley finds that the world’s employed adult population works an average of 42 hours a week. This number contains multitudes. Gender, age and levels of economic development affect how many hours people work. Many jobs are not neatly packaged into five eight-hour days. But the 40-hour week is still a norm. How long people actually work is not the same as how long they ought to. Jobs, incomes and cultural norms vary so wildly that there is no right answer. But how you think about the optimal workweek does say something about the kind of manager you are.

This 996 bullshit is garbage. At a certain point, adding more hours actually decreases productivity. You have people that are overworked doing low quality work over a longer period of time rather than having rested/happier employees that are highly productive in a short amount of time. Archive: https://archive.today/5623J From the post: >>Nine to five is still alive. Sort of. A new survey of labour-force data by Amory Gethin of the World Bank and Emmanuel Saez of the University of California, Berkeley finds that the world’s employed adult population works an average of 42 hours a week. This number contains multitudes. Gender, age and levels of economic development affect how many hours people work. Many jobs are not neatly packaged into five eight-hour days. But the 40-hour week is still a norm. How long people actually work is not the same as how long they ought to. Jobs, incomes and cultural norms vary so wildly that there is no right answer. But how you think about the optimal workweek does say something about the kind of manager you are.
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I have done both desk and digging. I'd say, the 4/1/4 is still good, but yeah, somedays I push to 10-11 if we are getting close to a finish point on a project.

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The "push" should be only as needed and when needed. Too many companies get in a habit of saying it is needed every single day.

I moved to a 4/10 schedule many years ago. It quickly became a 5/10 schedule. I quit, I have refused to ever do a 4/10 again. I work in a field that is exempt. they will fuck you and your life as much as possible while making sure to never give you a bonus or a promotion so long as you are willing to be their slave. Never again.

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Well, I work for myself, I drive as hard as I ask my guys, I won't ask anyone to do anything that I wont. If I think we can get it done today, I ask "yall want to stay till dark, or fuck it and come back tomorrow?" Usually the consensus is get it done.

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That's good. I don't currently employ myself. It is a goal.

I will no longer kill myself to make someone else rich while they fuck me over (No I am not complaining about doing my job, but about being abused to the limits). I work my ass off. I spent half of my weekend working because shit needed to get done and my current boss is not a jackass and people rely on what I do.

What you describe is being a leader, not a boss.