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No shit, if I was told to RTO I would just find another job. I spend a little time every week telling recruiters that I am only interested if the job is perm remote but I am willing to do occasional travel just to make sure that when the company asks why they cant get a good candidate they can say "Everyone wants to be remote".

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>The debate over return to office (RTO) doesn’t seem to be going away. Many companies have opted for a hybrid model that allows employees to still work from home a couple days a week, while some major employers have introduced strict mandates that require workers to fully return to the office, five days a week. Despite persistent pushback from employees, plenty of companies still seem to be bullish about bringing workers back to the office.

No shit, if I was told to RTO I would just find another job. I spend a little time every week telling recruiters that I am only interested if the job is perm remote but I am willing to do occasional travel just to make sure that when the company asks why they cant get a good candidate they can say "Everyone wants to be remote". Archive: https://archive.today/6wD21 From the post: >>The debate over return to office (RTO) doesn’t seem to be going away. Many companies have opted for a hybrid model that allows employees to still work from home a couple days a week, while some major employers have introduced strict mandates that require workers to fully return to the office, five days a week. Despite persistent pushback from employees, plenty of companies still seem to be bullish about bringing workers back to the office.
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[–] • 2 pts

My team was trying to back-fill two positions for the better part of this year. We had 2 really good candidates that were going to be required to be in the office a few days a week because they were close to one of the offices. The rest of the team is all over the country and none of us go to a office since they closed most of them.

Both of them said that they had other offers but would reconsider if the company waved the mandatory in-office time which would have been stupid to do anyway because our team and none of the teams we work with are in that office so they would be going to meet each other in the office since they happened to live close enough.

In the end we got HR/Upper management to wave the in-office requirement pointing out how stupid it would be since no one else would be at that office. Both of them were hired in the last 3 weeks and have already started and are already getting shit done.

RTO is a joke for a vast amount of the type of work that people in the country do at this point. All of this "in person collaboration creates success" or similar arguments are complete bullshit.

[–] • 2 pts

RTO is a joke for a vast amount of the type of work that people in the country do at this point. All of this "in person collaboration creates success" or similar arguments are complete bullshit.

A friend of mine is required to attend certain meetings from the office. The problem is that everyone he meets with is in a different office from everyone else. Literally the entire team goes into the nearest office to get on a Teams call with each other.

[–] • 2 pts

My god that is fucking stupid. That is not just a massive waste of time and resources but it is so brain dead it hurts.

[–] • 1 pt

It completely crushes morale, too.