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No shit. When I don't have to worry about 10 people a day walking into my office just to bullshit for a hour or two I can get a lot more work done. When I was in-office daily I probably got at best around 2 hours of work done a day. The rest of the time I was in pointless meetings that should have been email and people randomly coming into my office to waste my time.

Being fully remote, I am easily getting a week's worth of work done in a day or two and my schedule is extremely flexible. If I want to take a break to go for a walk or to do the dishes there is no ass-in-chair manager counting how long I am away from my desk. They see the work is getting done so they dont care.

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>Allowing flexible working and working from home creates a more productive, loyal workforce, the business secretary has said. In an interview with the Times, Jonathan Reynolds said employers "need to judge people on outcomes and not a culture of presenteeism". Labour is poised to unveil its Employment Rights Bill, which includes measures such as a right to "disconnect" outside working hours, a ban on zero-hours contracts and allowing workers to compress their contracted hours into fewer working days. Business groups have raised concerns about the plans, warning it could push up the cost of hiring staff and have the unintended consequence of ending overtime.

No shit. When I don't have to worry about 10 people a day walking into my office just to bullshit for a hour or two I can get a lot more work done. When I was in-office daily I probably got at best around 2 hours of work done a day. The rest of the time I was in pointless meetings that should have been email and people randomly coming into my office to waste my time. Being fully remote, I am easily getting a week's worth of work done in a day or two and my schedule is extremely flexible. If I want to take a break to go for a walk or to do the dishes there is no ass-in-chair manager counting how long I am away from my desk. They see the work is getting done so they dont care. Archive: https://archive.today/FB617 From the post: >>Allowing flexible working and working from home creates a more productive, loyal workforce, the business secretary has said. In an interview with the Times, Jonathan Reynolds said employers "need to judge people on outcomes and not a culture of presenteeism". Labour is poised to unveil its Employment Rights Bill, which includes measures such as a right to "disconnect" outside working hours, a ban on zero-hours contracts and allowing workers to compress their contracted hours into fewer working days. Business groups have raised concerns about the plans, warning it could push up the cost of hiring staff and have the unintended consequence of ending overtime.
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I appreciate being able to work from anywhere, though people abuse it. Know of one guy that didn't do anything at all for several months. Harder to fake working in a physical office.

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Depends on where you work. I worked in Gov for way too long and there were at least 3 people that never did a fucking thing other than wander around and talk to people in the hallway or their offices. Large companies can get like that too. Why do you think Elon was able to fire ~75% of the twitter staff and basically nothing was noticed in the site's availability?

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It's shocking companies can be run that inefficiently. Elon ended WFH though if I recall correctly. Most companies could probably fire the least productive 5% and not notice a thing.

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Yeah, I think Elon did end WFH but his companies are sort of like what it used to be to work for NASA or IBM back in the day. It comes with some prestige that people want to put on their resume.

I have been told by recruiters that they decided to place me for a interview entirely because of one of the companies I had worked for previously.

I think I read that Twitter had like 20 managers per engineer. When you become that administratively top-heavy you have a HUGE amount of waste. Human spending is very expensive and those manager jobs are all easily probably mid 6-figure jobs for a bunch of morons to jabber at each other and to keep you from getting work done.

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I've been fully remote since 2008. Even in the office I was the weirdo hiding in my cube trying to avoid socializing since I just wanted to get my work done. I hated it so much. Then I started getting hives and my eyes started swelling shut due to who knows what in the office.

Currently I have a narcissistic, Indian boss who needs constant attention and requires us to be on camera to make sure we are staring at him. He drags us into the office regularly so that we get nothing at all done just so he can stare at us and ask us personal questions. It's awful. I usually make up an excuse like my AC being broken (I'm in AZ, so it has to work) and I have to wait for the repair dude.

It's just moronic bosses who don't actually work who think their employees need to be in an office.

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Ass-in-chair managers must cost companies hundreds of millions of dollars in wasted time and output.

When I still went to the office I was lucky to have my own office with a real door and real walls (not those glass cube 'offices'). It got so bad with people interrupting my work that I stopped turning my light on in the office and would just leave the door closed but unlocked. That helped but only so much. Some people just started barging in anyway because they realized I was in the office.

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I've been fully remote for years, well before the Covid lock-downs allowed everyone else the opportunity. I manage to get much more work done than I can in the office, even with time spent fucking around here with you reprobates.

And yet, most companies in the US are forcing the return-to-office bullshit on their employees. Amazon just announced it this week.

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Yeah, I posted about it and how all of their best employees will leave and the only people that will stick around are the desperate or the low-quality or maybe the ones that enjoy the forced socialization that the office is.

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... the ones that enjoy the forced socialization that the office is.

The same ones that stop by your desk and chat, causing you to be less productive.

:-)