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@herenotthere or whoever else wants to answer the call, I’ll take you up on the offer to help expand my tastes in red wine

I’m putting it here rather than the suggested PM in the interest of creating more niche content on the site

What I know I like: - Cabs - Pinot Noir

Not my thing: - Merlots

Also interested in: - Italian wines - Syrahs/Shiraz

Since I have limited knowledge I usually reach for the bottles I know will be good. The Josh and Joel Gott cabs. Pinot Noirs I go for Josh, Bread & Butter (for a cheaper option), or a random from the willamette valley.

So here are my questions: - What are some good sweet spots in price and quality that are similar to what I already like? - Can you throw out any good standbys in the Italian and Syrah categories I’m interested in learning more about? - If I wanted to splurge for a higher caliber bottle, what are some great cabs or Pinot noirs to try?

Thank you in advance for any advice you can offer.

@herenotthere or whoever else wants to answer the call, I’ll take you up on the offer to help expand my tastes in red wine I’m putting it here rather than the suggested PM in the interest of creating more niche content on the site What I know I like: - Cabs - Pinot Noir Not my thing: - Merlots Also interested in: - Italian wines - Syrahs/Shiraz Since I have limited knowledge I usually reach for the bottles I know will be good. The Josh and Joel Gott cabs. Pinot Noirs I go for Josh, Bread & Butter (for a cheaper option), or a random from the willamette valley. So here are my questions: - What are some good sweet spots in price and quality that are similar to what I already like? - Can you throw out any good standbys in the Italian and Syrah categories I’m interested in learning more about? - If I wanted to splurge for a higher caliber bottle, what are some great cabs or Pinot noirs to try? Thank you in advance for any advice you can offer.

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Hello!

If you haven't already, I recommend you check out my previous post about wine here. There's a bunch of info in the comments giving good recommendations for wine, particularly this one for Italian reds.

But to answer your questions with a bit more depth I've had to do a bit of research into wine you may be able to find in your area. You see I work in the UK and a lot of the wine I have experience with coming from the U.S. are generally premium, likely costing a bit more than $10-$20 a bottle. That being said it's possible some of these vineyards have some more "cost friendly" bottles on the market that are sold locally. So a few great names to check out based on what you like would be: Robert Sinskey Vineyards does some really excellent Pinot Noirs & Cab. Sauvs, especially if you go back in the years (pre-2018). Arno-Roberts is another great producer with a lot of range with some high-quality Syrah and Cab. Sauv. Scotto Cellars do some very affordable and well-balanced Pinot Noirs. Tatomer is another Cali Pinot Noir must-try. Silver Oak Cellars do some of the most rounded, elegant Cab. Sauvs in the U.S. in my opinion, but be prepared to spend some money because in my experience they don't come cheap! Illahe Vineyards in Oregon have some really refined Pinot Noirs, some of the best I've tried from the area, light and potent red fruit. Kelley Fox also from Oregon is a small vineyard that practices low-intervention winemaking with some nice light and elegant Pinot Noirs.

Keep in mind that these are the names that I know of that are sold in restaurants and wine bars which are imported. I'm not sure what the cost price is when bought locally so maybe not all of them will have affordable bottles, but they're definitely worth checking out if you're considering a special occasion or want to try some premium quality stuff that's in-line with what you already like.

If you're looking for Syrah there's no better place in the world than Syrah from the Rhone Valley in the South of France. It's really has the best production of Syrah and Syrah blends on the market in my opinion, as for exact names there are so many that it's probably best you go to your local wine shop and ask them for something from this area. If you want something more local and niche though you should absolutely look for some Syrah's coming out of Okanagan in Canada. This little area in Canada genuinely produces some absolutely wonderful Syrah wines.

As for Italian wines, well there's so much to say! I'd really recommend you go over the comment I linked above, it gives a good breakdown of a few Italian reds which you'd like given your palate. A couple of styles I didn't mention in the comment however would be the lighter "Pinot Noir-esque" styles coming out of Italy. Wines such as Barbera D'Alba and Dolcetto are light, juicy reds with hints of spice that taste incredible. Italy also has their own Pinot Noir which they simply call Pinot Nero, and this is often just a Pinot Noir with a bit of spice. And this is a typical characteristic of both Italian reds and Syrah's in fact, that they have that spice that is honestly really, really enjoyable. Some have it more than others, for example a Valpolicella is probably the most spiciest you can get in the light reds, and if you like that, then you'll love it.

That pretty much covers the bases. If you have any more questions, need some specific details or want to give feedback after tasting some of these wines I'm happy to hear it!

Cheers!

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Thank you. Ok I guess I have to take a trip to a local wine shop and see what they have. I’ll jot down the Vineyards you mentioned who knows maybe I’ll see some options from one of them. Thanks for the link to the Italian wines too I’ll take a look.

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Most if not all of these vineyards also have online stores as well which could save you a trip.

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If I can write something interesting about it I’ll try to document my discoveries.