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If you fear death

Point out exactly where I said that. You can't, don't try.

why not start a family

Oh, damn man, I don't know... Why didn't I think of that? Good Lord I am so stupid... I forgot I could just go to church, find myself a pretty gal, chat her up, and ride off into the sunset with a cute little trad wife and have no issues at all!

Absurd, isn't it? That shit doesn't fucking happen anymore. Body count times 3, and if they say they're a virgin it's not counting how much random cock they've sucked. Welcome to your world, I hope you enjoy it.

in your homeland

I don't have one anymore.

in an area off the grid

Implying Whites should have to leave the societies, technology, and grand accomplishments they built.

Shitskins cannot live without electricity and paved roads.

Oh? The savages lived perfectly fine in their little mudhuts. They can do it again.

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I forgot I could just go to church, find myself a pretty gal, chat her up, and ride off into the sunset with a cute little trad wife and have no issues at all!

You could literally do that. You would have issues because there are always issues. But stop acting like it can’t be done.

It can't you dense bitch.

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The problem is your sour attitude and totally unwillingness to compromise on any issue at all.

You dont have to be such a miserable son of a bitch. Lots of people around here are depressed at the current state of things but they find reasons to carry on and love their fellow decent white people.

Didnt jesus say to love people occassionally? You come across as a prickly ball. Dont give me those justifications youve been collecting for the last decade. You are smart, you are young, you are not a degenerate. But you are mean. Choose to be something else or spend the rest of your existence as a bastard. Dont wait ten years. I sincerly hope you go with the former and I do care, for what its worth.

You are going to figure out in twenty years what I say is right. Why not save yourself the regret, and listen to me.

>> I forgot I could just go to church, find myself a pretty gal, chat her up, and ride off into the sunset with a cute little trad wife and have no issues at all!

Of course you can't use those methods. You care too much about what women want. Meet a few fathers in a rural area. These fathers have teenage daughters. It might only be a small percent of the White female population, but it can be done if you care enough. You're blackpilled about direct confrontation, it seems, so this might be a better approach.

In the past, girls in their 20s would even be prime for arranged marriage by her father. @BurnInHelena proved that to me over the last few days. Sadly, this option is mostly closed for now. If you want a family, do anything necessary.

>Implying Whites should have to leave the societies, technology, and grand accomplishments they built.

Angry? Me too.

>Oh? The savages lived perfectly fine in their little mudhuts. They can do it again.

Section 8 isn't an off the grid program.

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Hes mad at me because I said something like early christians were like SJWs or something like that. I dont even remember. But I literally put a trigger warning for christians at the beginning of my comment.

I have tried to encourage him to find a girlfriend and reproduce but as you say he is very blackpilled.

Lying bitch. You pulled a typical fucking jew play claiming Christ was jewish in an effort to dissuade and destroy those who follow Christ and stand against the demonic fucking rats. You are a subversive hostile that already signed your fucking death warrant.

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for arranged marriage by her father.

I dont think we ever established that. I really think that arranged marriage was rare except in the upper classes, at least in northwest europe.

Marriages approved by the father, yes. Arranged, no. These are two different things.

According to some of those sources I quoted earlier, marriages that were not approved of might take place if the engaged were over a certain age, 21 I think. So approved marriages were encouraged, but not required. In Canterbury anyways.

Now you're understanding why I advance arranged marriage as a check and balance on rampant hypergamy, and that it isn't nearly as forceful in societies with high social values with established checks and balances on hypergamy that were only implemented because somewhere up the line the families consolidates the collapsed society with arranged marriages in the first place.

Of course you can't use those methods.

Exactly.

Meet a few fathers in a rural area. These fathers have teenage daughters.

Yes, good for them. Doesn't change jack fucking shit. The capacity for an idiot girl to be a fucking worthless subhuman whore doesn't change because she has a father. If anything, it makes the chances higher.

You're blackpilled about direct confrontation, it seems, so this might be a better approach.

Taking a different approach to the same girl doesn't change the girl, merely the outward appearance.

In the past, girls in their 20s would even be prime for arranged marriage by her father.

Right.

BitchIWillNotName proved that to me over the last few days. Sadly, this option is mostly closed for now.

At least you learned something.

If you want a family, do anything necessary.

And why would one want a family knowing the future? To damn another soul to an even worse Hell? So that you, your wife, and your child can all be tortured in the same room together rather than evading capture as a lone wolf? So that your whole family can die of starvation quicker than if you were able to strike out on your own? Or maybe it's the grand opportunity to ride to the gulag together, only for the jewish rats to welcome you all by raping your wife while you're made to watch.

Their minds are that twisted, the world is that fucked. All of you preach about "muh White birthrates" and yet never address the fact that you cannot outpace those of the non-Whites. You're just sending innocent souls to Hell on Earth.

Angry? Me too.

It's not enough to be angry.

Section 8 isn't an off the grid program.

Too bad for them I guess.

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You guys, I'm loving this discussion. You both are making good points, and this is why I come to poal.

Phantom42-1 said

>"Implying Whites should have to leave the societies, technology, and grand accomplishments they built."

Do not underestimate him. It took me living off grid to really appreciate our grid. The scale, availability, and affordability of energy and resources is beyond measure. It costs tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to achieve 1/50th of what the average person uses in utilities. And instead of $100-$500 per month, you need $250,000 in infrastructure.

This achievement is not to be understated.

Living off grid is a way forward, but most of your efforts and resources go into replicating the grid. This will put us at a disadvantage competing with those leveraging the infrastructure WE INVENTED AND WE BUILT.

Why start over?

I'll respond more later. But great discussion.

Let's make this simple.

>And why would one want a family knowing the future? To damn another soul to an even worse Hell? So that you, your wife, and your child can all be tortured in the same room together rather than evading capture as a lone wolf? So that your whole family can die of starvation quicker than if you were able to strike out on your own? Or maybe it's the grand opportunity to ride to the gulag together, only for the jewish rats to welcome you all by raping your wife while you're made to watch.

I suspect this is just a start. List all your concerns with starting a family. If I or another bear can't cook up a plan that reasonably circumvents these concerns, I will admit total defeat on this issue. Hit me with your best shots. Let's do this.

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Actually it's literally as easy as going to church. My wife and I started going to church again last year. There's literally 3 attractive mid 20's and low 30's girls who are kind and friendly and looking for a man who isn't a piece of shit. And this is a church with about 30 in attendance every week. Any polite guy with good hygiene could waltz into the church this week and be on a nice date by this weekend. Just figure out a christian church in your town / city which is hipper than the rest with a younger crowd and start going and start doing their little side events and meetings. I fucking guarantee you'll find a good wife.

Wait, what?!?! Holy crap! That is awesome man! No way.... There is no freaking way. Hell, church is tomorrow, I think I might go and maybe find a date on the way out after service. Thanks for letting me know about that man. That's a serious white pill. I'm not kidding, thank you for telling me about this. Really.

See how easy it is to be fake? So when you tell me:

There's literally 3 attractive mid 20's and low 30's girls who are kind and friendly and looking for a man who isn't a piece of shit.

It really tells me nothing at all. You can't be so naive as to think they're just going to have their history written on their foreheads, right? Of course they're going to act kind and fucking friendly at church. The degenerate whore cunts that went to mine in high school did the exact same fucking act and everyone but those of us "in the know" fell for it.

You're smarter than that, surely. Stop judging books by their cover and actually read them for once.

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You're right, instead of finding attractive christian women, you should find attractive woke democrats instead, with tats and pink hair. Im sure you'll end up super happy. Yes I'm judging a book by its cover and where it spends it's time. Every category of interest has attractive women, pick the category that gives some respect to Christianity and who had a father that they loved, especially in all of this insanity where people on the fence are being flipped into hardcore man haters.