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>Virgins make the best husbands

If fathers want to disqualify a suitor for this, they should definitely do so. The statistics alone make it a great criterion for both the man and for the woman.

>but we can’t always get what we want

This is why arranged marriage is important. Men will see Nintendo, weed, and porn as better than the modern marriage game. Women will never forget the tallest, richest, highest status man she's ever had a one night stand with, and she won't marry less until well post-wall. This is modern society. Certain checks and balances prevented similar things from happening in the past. These stigmas are obviously gone, but a return to arranged marriage and multigenerational households can bring them back. The subversive nuclear family must end, or single-mother households will only continue to grow.

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Statistics yeah I guess. If a man is not a virgin when he marries then logic would dictate that he fucked a woman somewhere along the line who is now not a virgin either.

How can men fuck someone else before marriage without undermining the entire monogamous system? But guys somehow think they can fuck in a vaccuum.

if fathers..... blah blah blah.

I keep telling you a solely male arranged marriage system is ISLAM. You are talking about islam. Given this power, men will be the pimps of their teenage daughters. That is why muslim men are so shadey. 1400 years of male arranged matches. It has affected the genetic traits of the population. Polygamy, child brides, male on male violence. Large disparities of power between males.

. Women will never forget the tallest, richest, highest status man she's ever had a one night stand with,

You are really two fisting the mgtow kool aid. We are not cartoon characters. We are people. You need to get a grip.

>How can men fuck someone else before marriage without undermining the entire monogamous system?

Ideally, they don't. Tacitus' Germania clarifies this.

> We are people. You need to get a grip.

Values are in a bad place for most young men and women, thanks in no small part to single-mother households, the guaranteed evolution of nuclear families.