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>> I forgot I could just go to church, find myself a pretty gal, chat her up, and ride off into the sunset with a cute little trad wife and have no issues at all!
Of course you can't use those methods. You care too much about what women want. Meet a few fathers in a rural area. These fathers have teenage daughters. It might only be a small percent of the White female population, but it can be done if you care enough. You're blackpilled about direct confrontation, it seems, so this might be a better approach.
In the past, girls in their 20s would even be prime for arranged marriage by her father. @BurnInHelena proved that to me over the last few days. Sadly, this option is mostly closed for now. If you want a family, do anything necessary.
>Implying Whites should have to leave the societies, technology, and grand accomplishments they built.
Angry? Me too.
>Oh? The savages lived perfectly fine in their little mudhuts. They can do it again.
Section 8 isn't an off the grid program.
Of course you can't use those methods.
Exactly.
Meet a few fathers in a rural area. These fathers have teenage daughters.
Yes, good for them. Doesn't change jack fucking shit. The capacity for an idiot girl to be a fucking worthless subhuman whore doesn't change because she has a father. If anything, it makes the chances higher.
You're blackpilled about direct confrontation, it seems, so this might be a better approach.
Taking a different approach to the same girl doesn't change the girl, merely the outward appearance.
In the past, girls in their 20s would even be prime for arranged marriage by her father.
Right.
BitchIWillNotName proved that to me over the last few days. Sadly, this option is mostly closed for now.
At least you learned something.
If you want a family, do anything necessary.
And why would one want a family knowing the future? To damn another soul to an even worse Hell? So that you, your wife, and your child can all be tortured in the same room together rather than evading capture as a lone wolf? So that your whole family can die of starvation quicker than if you were able to strike out on your own? Or maybe it's the grand opportunity to ride to the gulag together, only for the jewish rats to welcome you all by raping your wife while you're made to watch.
Their minds are that twisted, the world is that fucked. All of you preach about "muh White birthrates" and yet never address the fact that you cannot outpace those of the non-Whites. You're just sending innocent souls to Hell on Earth.
Angry? Me too.
It's not enough to be angry.
Section 8 isn't an off the grid program.
Too bad for them I guess.
You guys, I'm loving this discussion. You both are making good points, and this is why I come to poal.
Phantom42-1 said
>"Implying Whites should have to leave the societies, technology, and grand accomplishments they built."
Do not underestimate him. It took me living off grid to really appreciate our grid. The scale, availability, and affordability of energy and resources is beyond measure. It costs tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to achieve 1/50th of what the average person uses in utilities. And instead of $100-$500 per month, you need $250,000 in infrastructure.
This achievement is not to be understated.
Living off grid is a way forward, but most of your efforts and resources go into replicating the grid. This will put us at a disadvantage competing with those leveraging the infrastructure WE INVENTED AND WE BUILT.
Why start over?
I'll respond more later. But great discussion.
I'm getting a kick out of this thread too. As for off grid, I'm on five acres in the Blue Ridge Mountains with zero neighbors, perfectly set up with my wife for off grid but for reasons you stated, will remain in grid and in society. Folks here are like minded, and sensible young ladies are abundant for sensible young men. But 'some' people seem to believe that most young women are too imperfect for their tastes, leaving them unhappy and the women wondering what the hell happened to men. This isn't really about women. They're still out there. I snagged a good one 25 years ago and have no regrets or second thoughts. One might complain that that was way back then, but way back then we said the same thing, suffering from the same delusion as 'some' young, frustrated men do today.
Let's make this simple.
>And why would one want a family knowing the future? To damn another soul to an even worse Hell? So that you, your wife, and your child can all be tortured in the same room together rather than evading capture as a lone wolf? So that your whole family can die of starvation quicker than if you were able to strike out on your own? Or maybe it's the grand opportunity to ride to the gulag together, only for the jewish rats to welcome you all by raping your wife while you're made to watch.
I suspect this is just a start. List all your concerns with starting a family. If I or another bear can't cook up a plan that reasonably circumvents these concerns, I will admit total defeat on this issue. Hit me with your best shots. Let's do this.
If I or another bear can't cook up a plan that reasonably circumvents these concerns, I will admit total defeat on this issue.
It isn't about me or getting one to admit defeat. It's about understanding reality as it is.
Hit me with your best shots.
Those don't come in words.
Anyhow, I'll answer you. It won't accomplish anything, but you asked. This is in no particular order, and is omitting generally what I've said above.
For starters, bloodline. White as I may be and Germanic as my face looks, I do carry Cherokee blood, which would be considered by the general population of our circles as non-White blood. I challenge that assertion with newer studies displaying eastern coast tribes come from the Mediterranean and perhaps even Ireland (colonists found red-haired and fair skinned Indians), but this is new info and could very well be wrong. If it is, I have non-White blood and reproduction is out of the question. If it isn't, then the initial concern is unfounded.
Then there is the personal aspect. Despite numerous attempts, I didn't have any luck. Clumsy approaches, imperfect timing, little mistakes. I figured it was best to simply stop trying. By college, I had already resigned myself to staying "in the background". I'd make no effort unless there was a damn good reason to do so. No reason came up, and over time I found myself caring less and less as I learned more. By freshman year of college I was firmly redpilled and held, as I do now, a National Socialist point of view. With the redpills came "the woman question" and the more I read the more I began to understand exactly how dire the situation truly was, recalling personal experiences from time to time that supported every claim made against the inferior sex.
Am I an incel? Not at all. Hell, if we look at the original meaning which is "involuntarily celibate" then certainly not. I've had opportunities to do things, and I said no. Likely the only one who did. It's because I know I'm better than that.
But that doesn't remove the fact that I am approaching 22 and practically have zero experience in these matters. Soon, I think, I'll be going into pharmacy school, and I'll be far too busy taking care of that day in and day out to have time to give a single flying fuck about some random girl should one even catch my eye, which is unlikely. After that, I'll be returning to my hometown or that general area and work until interesting times are upon us or I die. It's a poor area, and the only people that live there are Boomers, 30+yo's, and kids. Not a place you just bump into a nice gal around my age.
Summing it up, the way life itself is set up, which is the way I planned it, does not leave opportunity for any of that idiocy. Undergrad was really the last chance to accomplish anything related to the lovey bullshit, and nothing happened. Nothing will in these final months. I know too much about how the modern "woman" my age works and it disgusts me, particularly those that go to college.
In another time before mine I probably would've had a family, but that's not how life works. You can't have it all.
And of course there are problems with myself that I'd have to address. I'm far from a saint. Anger issues, a general disposition toward not being 100% positive 24/7 like everyone on this fucking planet expects, and a childhood that has left its marks. I learned quickly to kill any emotion that might present itself, or smother it under stronger ones. Poker face game is strong.
So... Bloodline, personal aspects, general disposition, knowing too much about a rigged game...
Covers it enough without bitching too much. I could go on and on but it does nothing, doesn't matter, and anymore just feels like playing a broken record. Not worth the time.
At any rate, there will not be a family of my own. Things have fallen too far and war is just around the corner, where I will surely die. I have no real intention of making it out alive. I might, and if I do then I suppose that's fine, but the nature of the war coming will see massive destruction that will see WWII considered by historians as a small skirmish if any are left.
I'm just waiting on God to come back, though he has no real reason to, or to die and move on to Heaven where God might understand, remember I'm Saved, and let me hang out in the little corner of Heaven nobody goes to. Best if I'm not around others too long. Which I guess is why I have a habit of disappearing on people... Better that way.
for arranged marriage by her father.
I dont think we ever established that. I really think that arranged marriage was rare except in the upper classes, at least in northwest europe.
Marriages approved by the father, yes. Arranged, no. These are two different things.
According to some of those sources I quoted earlier, marriages that were not approved of might take place if the engaged were over a certain age, 21 I think. So approved marriages were encouraged, but not required. In Canterbury anyways.
Now you're understanding why I advance arranged marriage as a check and balance on rampant hypergamy, and that it isn't nearly as forceful in societies with high social values with established checks and balances on hypergamy that were only implemented because somewhere up the line the families consolidates the collapsed society with arranged marriages in the first place.
Hes mad at me because I said something like early christians were like SJWs or something like that. I dont even remember. But I literally put a trigger warning for christians at the beginning of my comment.
I have tried to encourage him to find a girlfriend and reproduce but as you say he is very blackpilled.
Lying bitch. You pulled a typical fucking jew play claiming Christ was jewish in an effort to dissuade and destroy those who follow Christ and stand against the demonic fucking rats. You are a subversive hostile that already signed your fucking death warrant.
I honestly dont remember the particulars. But Jesus was jewish. I dont know why that is controversial. I am not trying to dissuade people from following Jesus, but this is a free speech site and I am not going to pretend because I am not a christian.
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