Hopefully there's 1 MRA on Poal to back you with something real. Strength guy.
Hopefully there's 1 MRA on Poal to back you with something real. Strength guy.
Wow, I'm so sorry.
I have a feeling the jail time thing is more to scare you. My dad had something a while ago where they broke him he could get a lot jail time he just got a long probation.
Wow, I'm so sorry.
I have a feeling the jail time thing is more to scare you. My dad had something a while ago where they broke him he could get a lot jail time he just got a long probation.
I’m seeking legal help to figure it out
I’m seeking legal help to figure it out
Get a JEW lawyer don't forget this is not "court" it's a fuckin Sanhedrin.
Get a JEW lawyer don't forget this is not "court" it's a fuckin Sanhedrin.
Good luck and pay for a lawyer. You will save money in the long run!
Good luck and pay for a lawyer. You will save money in the long run!
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It is just wonderful sitting back collecting sheckles and watching our justice system destroy lives. It's good enough you broke your own property, and may need a loan, at premium rates, from one of our many upstanding institutions in order to replace it. But now you will be faced with more fines and legal fees as a minimum. or be required to pay for own jail time. The system is not broken. It is designed to break you. shaloms!
It is just wonderful sitting back collecting sheckles and watching our justice system destroy lives. It's good enough you broke your own property, and may need a loan, at premium rates, from one of our many upstanding institutions in order to replace it. But now you will be faced with more fines and legal fees as a minimum. or be required to pay for own jail time. The system is not broken. It is designed to break you. shaloms!
You didn't harm anyone, and only destroyed your own property.
I don't see any jail time coming of this.
Misdemeanor assault? What are the charges exactly?
You didn't harm anyone, and only destroyed your own property.
I don't see any jail time coming of this.
Misdemeanor assault? What are the charges exactly?
Domestic violence one count
Based on two complaints
Intimidation of a witness with intent or prevent the victim from reporting. misdemeanor class b
Criminal deprivation of property. Class A misdemeanor .
Domestic violence one count
Based on two complaints
Intimidation of a witness with intent or prevent the victim from reporting. misdemeanor class b
Criminal deprivation of property. Class A misdemeanor .
The property thing should get thrown out, your property.
Intimidation seems minor.
The only one I'd be worried about is the domestic violence charge, but if you didn't harm anyone I don't see anything coming of it.
Get a good lawyer. Be the best you can be while this is playing out.
I think you'll be OK, maybe some probation.
I know from experience how your mind will constantly play it out to the worst outcome. Be prepared for that, but don't let your mind squirrel cage out of control with worry, that is unhealthy and unproductive.
I know you said you want to work things out with her, but maybe that is not for the best. IDK. Just don't force anything, at all.
The property thing should get thrown out, your property.
Intimidation seems minor.
The only one I'd be worried about is the domestic violence charge, but if you didn't harm anyone I don't see anything coming of it.
Get a good lawyer. Be the best you can be while this is playing out.
I think you'll be OK, maybe some probation.
I know from experience how your mind will constantly play it out to the worst outcome. Be prepared for that, but don't let your mind squirrel cage out of control with worry, that is unhealthy and unproductive.
I know you said you want to work things out with her, but maybe that is not for the best. IDK. Just don't force anything, at all.
The better your case is the better the lawyer you should get. You don't want some cheap lawyer who won't even take advantage of what's on your side.
The better your case is the better the lawyer you should get. You don't want some cheap lawyer who won't even take advantage of what's on your side.
Not a lawyer, but my brother dealt with this a couple years back. He could have fought and possibly won his domestic violence charge, she instigated fights and he defended himself, but he didn't want to gamble with jail on the line and plead guilty. Probation, no out of state travel without permission and only for work, no booze and having to take piss tests for a couple of years, AA meetings, anger management classes. Some of that may have been conditions to allow him to see how kids though. I don't remember how long but after a few years the felony domestic violence charge would drop to a misdemeanor on his record if he keeps his nose clean, which he is.
He was lucky that he works a trade and they tend to be more lenient on felonies, he had a bit of a hard time finding an apartment though.
Edit - Good luck man, seriously. Going by what he dealt with its gonna be rough for a while, keep your chin up.
Not a lawyer, but my brother dealt with this a couple years back. He could have fought and possibly won his domestic violence charge, she instigated fights and he defended himself, but he didn't want to gamble with jail on the line and plead guilty. Probation, no out of state travel without permission and only for work, no booze and having to take piss tests for a couple of years, AA meetings, anger management classes. Some of that may have been conditions to allow him to see how kids though. I don't remember how long but after a few years the felony domestic violence charge would drop to a misdemeanor on his record if he keeps his nose clean, which he is.
He was lucky that he works a trade and they tend to be more lenient on felonies, he had a bit of a hard time finding an apartment though.
Edit - Good luck man, seriously. Going by what he dealt with its gonna be rough for a while, keep your chin up.
she instigated fights and he defended himself
A go-pro or cell phone video could have saved him.
> she instigated fights and he defended himself
A go-pro or cell phone video could have saved him.
OP, you said you had court yesterday, but you are still looking for a lawyer. The lawyer should have been in court with you yesterday, no exceptions. Even if only to get a feel for the judge and the case to advise you better. Never step into the court room on any matter without a lawyer with the exception of maybe a traffic ticket.
Besides the immediate consequences, this is your life we are talking about and people's future perception of you. Over the course of a lifetime that is worth at least tens of thousands to you and I promise your lawyer won't cost that much. Bang for buck you will get more use out of a lawyer involving him early. Not only that but he could have started negotiating with the prosecution before yesterday's hearing. The trajectory you are going down right now may have never happened.
The prosecution charges based on how unprepared they think "this shmuck" is. You would have at least be talking about plea agreements already and would have more time to contemplate them and negotiate them. You may think pleading is stupid but they could handle you something sweet. Try only the lesser charge with details omited to the judge for sentencing so you get the best sentence possible on the most meager description of the least charge. That's a normal thing when you point a lawyer at something early.
OP, you said you had court yesterday, but you are still looking for a lawyer. The lawyer should have been in court with you yesterday, no exceptions. Even if only to get a feel for the judge and the case to advise you better. Never step into the court room on any matter without a lawyer with the exception of maybe a traffic ticket.
Besides the immediate consequences, this is your life we are talking about and people's future perception of you. Over the course of a lifetime that is worth at least tens of thousands to you and I promise your lawyer won't cost that much. Bang for buck you will get more use out of a lawyer involving him early. Not only that but he could have started negotiating with the prosecution before yesterday's hearing. The trajectory you are going down right now may have never happened.
The prosecution charges based on how unprepared they think "this shmuck" is. You would have at least be talking about plea agreements already and would have more time to contemplate them and negotiate them. You may think pleading is stupid but they could handle you something sweet. Try only the lesser charge with details omited to the judge for sentencing so you get the best sentence possible on the most meager description of the least charge. That's a normal thing when you point a lawyer at something early.
One can represent themselves up to trial, most can do that.
Just remember: do not provide facts to the prosecutor in the pre-trial conferences and do not acknowledge alleged facts.
If you can record these meetings then do so. If you need a transcript from these meetings captured by the audio device, the person can transcribe himself. Just note in a simple affidavit that the audio recorder and transcript is accurate and that you read the manual of the recording device and have trained yourself to become proficient in its operation (this lays the foundation for any transcript produced to be admissible).
It sounds like his next court date is not the trial date.
If one is not familiar with the processes, I would recommend a lawyer. If one is then representing himself is not a big issue in respect to pre-trial things - I file motions to dismiss without a lawyer's help and have never lost one yet (I only file when I think I can win) in criminal court.
And even if you are versed if there is a potential civil suit against a person after the case is won then using a lawyer is OK too because you might get your money back.
Me? I never plead out. Never lost a case because I have never committed a crime ... charges based all on lies that were told to the cops and prosecutors.
One can represent themselves up to trial, most can do that.
Just remember: do not provide facts to the prosecutor in the pre-trial conferences and do not acknowledge alleged facts.
If you can record these meetings then do so. If you need a transcript from these meetings captured by the audio device, the person can transcribe himself.
Just note in a simple affidavit that the audio recorder and transcript is accurate and that you read the manual of the recording device and have trained yourself to become proficient in its operation (this lays the foundation for any transcript produced to be admissible).
It sounds like his next court date is not the trial date.
If one is not familiar with the processes, I would recommend a lawyer. If one is then representing himself is not a big issue in respect to pre-trial things - I file motions to dismiss without a lawyer's help and have never lost one yet (I only file when I think I can win) in criminal court.
And even if you are versed if there is a potential civil suit against a person after the case is won then using a lawyer is OK too because you might get your money back.
Me? I never plead out. Never lost a case because I have never committed a crime ... charges based all on lies that were told to the cops and prosecutors.
It was a first appearance from bail. I clear thought it wasn’t anything but setting a date for the next one. You’re correct lesson learned.
It was a first appearance from bail. I clear thought it wasn’t anything but setting a date for the next one. You’re correct lesson learned.
good luck to you. prayers being sent your way
good luck to you. prayers being sent your way
What are you being charged with? Wasn't it your own laptop you smashed?
What are you being charged with? Wasn't it your own laptop you smashed?
Domestic violence one count based on two complaints
Intimidation of a witness
Criminal deprivation of property
Domestic violence one count based on two complaints
Intimidation of a witness
Criminal deprivation of property
"moving forward". Ok you summed it up there.
"moving forward". Ok you summed it up there.
I second the calls to get a lawyer and always use one. NEVER get a female lawyer - they will side with the ex and or suck.
Prepare for the appeal case from the beginning and talk to your lawyer about this.
Make sure your communication going forward is all in email or recorded. Don't meet unsupervised in person or talk over the phone etc..
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I second the calls to get a lawyer and always use one. NEVER get a female lawyer - they will side with the ex and or suck.
Prepare for the appeal case from the beginning and talk to your lawyer about this.
Make sure your communication going forward is all in email or recorded. Don't meet unsupervised in person or talk over the phone etc..
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We can also help you disappear should that be required.
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