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Maybe.

Maybe.

The root of my discontent with mathematics is tied to the fundamental position the discipline is afforded in modern science, so it gets backblast from my discontent with science itself.

Make no mistake, science is a vital feed-stock for engineering (A discipline I identify far more with, given as I studied it for two and a half years back in the '80s), but my issue comes in with the way the modern world tries to treat science as a sort of post-modern deity, whereas I maintain that the art of measurements will never provide meaningful answers about life - such things being the domain of philosophy and theology.

tl;dr I'm a grouchy almost-engineer-turned-philosopher who dislikes the modern science-as-pragma culture. That I don't much like math shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

That and I still have fucking PTSD-esque nightmares about multivariate calculus.

I chuckled at the response.

From my experience, as a scientist, I can assure you that politicians toss scientific evidence into the trash.

It does not change facts. Science cannot do that.

Instead, people pick and choose what "science" they like.

You can prove this yourself. Next time a politician says something, ask him for the records that he relied upon in making the statement.

Have fun !

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WELL THAT'S GOOD, BECAUSE I CHUCKLED WRITING IT.

(If I'm not amusing myself, at the very least, I don't much see the point in this whole "internet" business)

I already know well enough not to trust politicians. I saw Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, and Bush in office - then Major in the UK, and lastly Mbeki and Zuma in SA. That's just the countries that've been a citizen of. Visited over sixty others. I've seen politicians of every colour and every creed, and they all lie just the same.

Science and Philosophy are the two offspring of Logic, and both have left convoluted and potentially inbred family trees in their wake. As with all disciplines, they have their place and their purpose.

I'm just a highly evolved crank. Surprised - still, somehow - whenever people seriously respond to anything I post online.

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I consider myself both scientific and skilled at math and engineering.

I also appreciate that science has turned into a essentially religion, which I term "scientism". You can see this every time someone says "Don't you believe in science?" Essentially, by definition, science is, in truth, an approach based on empiricism, not belief, and the question itself speaks of profound ignorance.

Recently, I have come to appreciate both philosophy and spirituality. I find virtually all mixing of spirituality and science to be distasteful mental masturbation. That being said, I do take a "scientific" approach to spirituality. I study spiritual hypotheses without clouding my mind with beliefs.