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Let me explain:

It seems like motorcyclist are always lecturing other drivers and people about things the OTHER drivers and people could be doing to minimize THEIR risk of getting hurt when riding.

This annoys the hell out of me. When you get on a motorcycle you already are taking a huge risk. Why the hell should I be changing my behavior for YOUR hobby? (Just a few examples: "be aware motorcycles are everywhere", "don't blow your grass clippings on the road", "dim your headlights")

It reminds me of the same argument feminist use. They want to engage in a risky hobby (a promiscuous lifestyle) that is completely optional, but then they demand you change your behavior to make it a little less risky (Examples: "pay for my birth control", "teach safe sex instead of abstinence", " believe all women" etc).

Anyway the parallels seem pretty apparent to me. Then if you ask motorcyclists why you should change YOUR behavior for their risky choice they get all bitchy about it. Like it's their God given right to be on the road. Sure, you can be on the road -- just like thots can sleep with whoever they want. But why is it MY responsibility to make sure you are safe?

The answer: it's not. It's not my responsibility at all. But for some reason (just like with feminist) there is this culture of "protect motorcyclists".

Screw that. You know the risk when you jump on that bike. It's on you to minimize it, not me. I'm not going out of my way to kill you -- but I'm not going above and beyond to change my behavior for you either.

And I come from a motorcycle driving family. This is what set me off. Their entitled attitude that people should change their behavior because they are more "at risk" on a bike. YOU CHOOSE TO RIDE THE DAMN THING! AND YOU AREN'T EVEN WEARING A HELMET!

Let me explain: It seems like motorcyclist are always lecturing other drivers and people about things the OTHER drivers and people could be doing to minimize THEIR risk of getting hurt when riding. This annoys the hell out of me. When you get on a motorcycle you already are taking a huge risk. Why the hell should I be changing my behavior for YOUR hobby? (Just a few examples: "be aware motorcycles are everywhere", "don't blow your grass clippings on the road", "dim your headlights") It reminds me of the same argument feminist use. They want to engage in a risky hobby (a promiscuous lifestyle) that is completely optional, but then they demand you change your behavior to make it a little less risky (Examples: "pay for my birth control", "teach safe sex instead of abstinence", " believe all women" etc). Anyway the parallels seem pretty apparent to me. Then if you ask motorcyclists why you should change YOUR behavior for their risky choice they get all bitchy about it. Like it's their God given right to be on the road. Sure, you can be on the road -- just like thots can sleep with whoever they want. But why is it MY responsibility to make sure you are safe? The answer: it's not. It's not my responsibility at all. But for some reason (just like with feminist) there is this culture of "protect motorcyclists". Screw that. You know the risk when you jump on that bike. It's on you to minimize it, not me. I'm not going out of my way to kill you -- but I'm not going above and beyond to change my behavior for you either. And I come from a motorcycle driving family. This is what set me off. Their entitled attitude that people should change their behavior because they are more "at risk" on a bike. YOU CHOOSE TO RIDE THE DAMN THING! AND YOU AREN'T EVEN WEARING A HELMET!

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[–] 2 pts

I'm a motorcyclist that lane splits, and probably rides too enthusiastically for my own good.

We're not telling you to do anything that you shouldn't already be doing. You should be checking your mirrors and indicating prior to changing lanes; you should dip your high beams when there's an oncoming vehicle; you should not dump your rubbish on the road. And you should look for things crossing your path before pulling out onto a road: be it another car, a road train, a person, a bicycle or even a motorcycle. If you don't drive like a Muppet, the messages aren't aimed at you.

That over with, the statistic is that something like 90% of motorcycle accidents happen within the rider's field of vision. So close the 90% of accidents are completely avoidable with good roadcraft and cautious riding. Unfortunately, other cars not driving properly are the main problem for riders that do take all the precautions.

Finally, the problem with THOTs and that whole promiscuous culture is that it ends with welfare queens and bastard children. If there was no welfare, I couldn't give two fucks what or who they fuck, as long as no-one else is paying for their mistakes. You could argue that Motorcycle accidents are more expensive to insurance companies, but that's their choice to insure that group, and your choice to use that company. The other argument is when you need to get mandated state personal insurance (Vic Australia's TAC), but your problem there is mandatory personal insurance in the first place.

[–] 1 pt

What happens to the riders without insurance? Or who cripple themselves and have to live off welfare the rest of their lives because they can't work? Same principal applies.

[–] 2 pts

I'm not sure about other places, but in Victoria Australia it's Incorporated into motorcycle registration, so you MUST buy it, cannot buy an alternative, and it makes it even more expensive than a car. That provides for you if you cripple yourself.

I agree with you though, regardless of if you cripple yourself on a bike, or shit out a fucktonne of kids, you shouldn't get any welfare.

The common, root, problem is welfare. Always is, always has been.