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A racist is someone who judges a person based on the trends of the person’s race.

Ex. “Blacks commit more crime, you’re black, therefore you are a criminal.”

Sexism is the same thing; judging one man based on the general trends of all men as a whole and judging one woman based on the general trends of all women as a whole.

Conclusion: Judging any individual based on the general trends of the individual’s group is always stupid. There are always outliers to trends. You cannot know a person based on trends; you can only judge a person based on the person themselves. You can make guesses based on trends, but that’s it.

Racism and sexism are simply some of the more common forms of judging-based-on-group-trends.

Racism and sexism are not evil positions; they’re ignorant positions.

A racist is someone who judges a person based on the trends of the person’s race. Ex. “Blacks commit more crime, you’re black, therefore you are a criminal.” Sexism is the same thing; judging one man based on the general trends of all men as a whole and judging one woman based on the general trends of all women as a whole. Conclusion: Judging any individual based on the general trends of the individual’s group is always stupid. There are always outliers to trends. You cannot know a person based on trends; you can only judge a person based on the person themselves. You can make *guesses* based on trends, but that’s it. Racism and sexism are simply some of the more common forms of judging-based-on-group-trends. Racism and sexism are not evil positions; they’re ignorant positions.

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So, awareness of bell curves? Good message. Unfortunately, it isn't obsessed with power dynamics so we'll take points off.

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Essentially, haha

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I don't mean to sound dismissive about it. I think that explaining bell curves is a good way to explain to kids how to use stereotypes.

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Important to note there's a difference between racism and prejudice

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You ever live in a predominantly black neighborhood?

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Even then Kent, if your position is that all blacks are trait X, that is impossible to prove. There will always be outliers.

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Using outliers to disprove trends is intellectually disingenuous.

I just say bias for or against someone based on certain characteristics as race , religion, or sex. It's that simple. I am biased against really stupid people like PC that do not judge their own beliefs but take them for granted as the truth.

Yes, to judge an individual based on nothing other then the trends of their group is foolish; however, it is not foolish to make decisions based off the known trends. For example, don't move closer to densly populated black communities because you know the crime rates are higher in those areas because blacks commit more violent crime.

Problem is, people would call you a racist for even doing that.

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Agreed

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Pattern recognition is a component of ones inner compass.To avoid being racist or sexist is avoiding the 'general' truth about the races and sexes.

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I agree, making general statements is fine but once we reach absolutes is when I disagree

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>Racism and sexism are not evil positions; they’re ignorant positions.

-isms are propaganda terms and really shouldn't be used to build your personal beliefs upon.

You should move to a black neighborhood. Try Chicago. You will learn first hand how ignorant your position is.

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Found the guy who's never had to interact with blacks before.

What is actually ignorant is judging everyone as an individual when just looking at their race gives you with 99% accuracy knowledge of who they are, on the off chance that they're the 1% deviation from the rule.

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For arguments sake let’s assume the 99% figure is accurate. All you can do that information is know that 99% of blacks fit some stereotype. That’s it. You cannot know with absolute certainty that every black person you meet will fit this stereotype.

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For arguments sake let’s assume the 99% figure is accurate. All you can do that information is know that 99% of blacks fit some stereotype. That’s it. You cannot know with absolute certainty that every black person you meet will fit this stereotype.

and your point is?

Of course I'm going to assume that something extremely likely is going to be true over something comparatively unlikely, nbeing less than 100% sure of something doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't make decisions based on statistics.

Around blacks never relax is a thing for a reason, just because you have that 1% based black coworker doesn't mean you suddenly let your guard down around similar looking people when you know statistically they're the most likely to harm you.

You seem to be under the impression that I shouldn't use statistical knowledge about behavior by demographics to inform my decisions until I have a deeper knowledge about the specific individual.

I understand that not every black person is a criminal, but I'm not going to treat every one of them like they're the unicorn because it would place my life in danger. I know I have avoided being robbed or jumped because I am wary and pay attention around black folk. My safety is more important than some ideal.

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My post more applies to dealing with people one on one, not so much to you versus a large group of people

Racism and sexism are not evil positions; they’re ignorant positions.

What if someone genuinely hates the opposite sex and willfully lies about them? Wouldn't that be a form of sexism that goes beyond ignorance?

For example what are the odds that well-known feminists/journalists never heard throughout their entire career that there is an adjusted and an unadjusted paygap? From a reader who sent them an e-mail, youtube comment or a twitter message?

And on the other side you have some psychopathic Incels or muslims who kill their own child after it was raped.

Conclusion: Judging any individual based on the general trends of the individual’s group is always stupid.

Sometimes it's better to be judgemental. In a dark alley I will be more inclined to avoid people who look like they belong to a gang than people who wear suits.