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  1. Putt's canary died.
  2. Putt has become a huge faggot since his canary died.
  3. One of Putt's builders just got doxxed and apparently looks like a Kike. (But I missed the pics.)

And recently Putt has been shilling for PIA. Should we be using PIA? Is it compromised? I like it, but can you suggest any good alternatives? (If it doesn't accept crypto, GTFO.)

1. Putt's canary died. 2. Putt has become a huge faggot since his canary died. 3. One of Putt's builders just got doxxed and apparently looks like a Kike. (But I missed the pics.) And recently Putt has been shilling for PIA. Should we be using PIA? Is it compromised? I like it, but can you suggest any good alternatives? (If it doesn't accept crypto, GTFO.)

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[+] [deleted] • 6 pts
[–] • 4 pts

NordVPN is far better than PIA. Putt's shilling requests users post pictures of themselves, leaving them exposed to potential doxxing. There is no need for a face to be in the picture for it to be possible.

[–] • 5 pts

Mullvad is also good. I've been using it for a while and so far haven't run into any problems. Best of all it's open source.

[–] • 2 pts

There was some investigative things written showing nord was a honeypot. Also, it’s ads every where normies go seemed pretty over the top and in line with three letter tactics. They also share an address with another company of questionable morals, in a country that requires data logging by law. I don’t have the link, but it chased all the details down.

I would be wary.

[–] • 1 pt

Is that so... Thanks for the heads up, I'm definitely looking into this.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

yea PIA is literally in Indiana....at least Nord is located at Panama, but I'm still suspicious at both. Panama is still pretty much de facto the CIA's private property. lol.

[–] • 3 pts (edited )

He claims is non-logging.

Toward your point, of course VPN just moves the point of presence relative to the other end, away from the ISP. Changes not much else. In the wrong hands makes it much easier to do man-in-the-middle than trying to solicit the ISP, or if you were someone who would not be able to solicit the ISP's help. If you use it religiously, like one account, could further help someone understand all of your own locations for all the places you physically connect from, all collected in one place, that even the ISPs each would not have access by themselves.

I think its weird that after being so serious about it, the he said he doesn't check IPs when checking down vote logs, and at same time gave out VPN which should make it easier to look like two different people. Not checking IPs means he has the least visibility into the greatest swath of who is most purposefully being inorganic, and doesn't know who is gaming the system.

For the record I was not banned, and I did not start posting here because of the recent debacle. It did remind me of here, and I went to go look, and decided to try it. I need to minimize the batches of loony toons in my life, so I can focus on other things I have going on, and to do so in a better emotional place.

Edit: Just wanted to be clear that I'm not against VPNs.

VPNs can be extremely useful or even necessary, but its important to understand the tradeoffs. If you don't want your own single ISP, or their down stream providers, to be able to identify or see anything, usually because you can be identified by your ISP account info, then its great. But for independent VPN providers for surfing the web etc... you are still just as susceptible from VPN onward and its downstream providers, from the same reasons. Keep in mind, authorities roll through VPN providers tracking back to ISPs routinely.

[–] • 2 pts

He claims is non-logging.

I'm an insider in the field. I have to temper my response here because if I sound angry at all, then it will undermine my point. And meanwhile, I'm not angry. But for the person running a VPN to claim that they don't log, makes about as much sense as for a snake to claim that it won't bite you.

Which to be clear is not to say that a snake will bite you, just that it is a bit ridiculous to base any of your decision making around these types of claims.

[–] • 1 pt

Feds or others could require you to log things, or confirm others logs or data, and no one break a sweat.

Sometimes its all perfectly reasonable why and maybe for the good, so to speak, others is clearly difficult to tell how it would not be slimy.

I don't think you have to worry about saying it, even if you feel strongly about it. :)

[–] • 1 pt

His word is shit at this point. There is enough nefarious things going on there for him to justify anything at this point. Ar least in his mind.

[–] • 1 pt

I'd consider using the VPN in this case, a risky move.

[–] • 1 pt

Because of

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

I’m going to go delete my voat account now; this post has me rattled.

[–] • 1 pt

Not just a kike, a tranny kike with a fivehead

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

how long do you keep IP's logged?

[–] • 2 pts

The nginx logs on poal's main servers(the main poal.co) are automatically flushed once a week, we keep them for a week purely for debugging problems that pop up. The other servers for the other things that poal does IE mumble, matrix/riot, search and on and on I honestly don't remember how I set all those off the top of my head but I did make a point to make sure periodically the logs get nuked. I guess I can go back and look when I get some time if you want.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

That's good to nuke regularly, that way a user theoretically can't be proven liable for anything they posted before the last flush. Debugging is necessary obviously, but ideally there would be no logs at all of user IP's, and you could even make a statement about that in the ToS, that way if the site was compromised the user would have a legal defence in that the terms were violated by the site if the IP was logged.

[–] • 1 pt

You have a good point I’ll see what I can do about reducing/eliminating them in the future.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

you should also look into moving servers out of the NSA's reach

[–] • 1 pt

Already outside the US might move again

[–] • 0 pt

srayzie is hot. No body pics but face very pretty.