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The schools in this country are a joke, especially if you live in a metro area like myself. I'm paying for a school system I don't use. Then I pay again for the private school I send my son to, where he gets an actual education.

There is something very wrong with that.

If all parents paid out of pocket for their child's education, they might demand more from the system. They might actually put some effort into making sure their child benefits from the schooling. It's not a daycare people!

The schools in this country are a joke, especially if you live in a metro area like myself. I'm paying for a school system I don't use. Then I pay again for the private school I send my son to, where he gets an actual education. There is something very wrong with that. If all parents paid out of pocket for their child's education, they might demand more from the system. They might actually put some effort into making sure their child benefits from the schooling. It's not a daycare people!

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[–] • 5 pts

public school funding is totally out of control

time was, a handful of farms could chip in and fund a teacher and build a school on very little money

you should be free to direct any taxed dollars for schooling to the institution (public, private, charter, home) of your choice

[–] • 3 pts

you should be free to direct any taxed dollars for schooling to the institution (public, private, charter, home) of your choice

Whenever this is suggested the teacher's union and government officials go crazy! The government hates competition!

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

if by "bi-annual" you're intending to mean "every 2 years," the proper term is actually "biennial". Bi-annual means "occuring twice a year." It's the same as semi-annual.

Edit: also I whole-heartedly agree with what you're saying. Fuck the state controlling education, that's communism.

[–] • 2 pts

a lot of places do property taxes twice a year, but this would be a good one to revive

[–] • 2 pts

Twice a year.

Cool though, I didn't know biennial was a word.

[–] • 2 pts

What about the yearly 'referendums' and the million yard signs that urge you to VOTE YES 'for the schoolkids' that's definitely not just a desperate attempt by your state to keep pace with its out of control public employee pension system?

Those teacher work so damn hard for 9 months of the year though they deserve it.

[–] • 2 pts

Ha!

I vote no on ALL tax increases, schools or otherwise.

[–] • 2 pts

Me too, and it doesn't seem to stop a damn thing from getting through.

[–] • 0 pt

Our last two school levies actually failed much to my delight.

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[–] • 1 pt

Not every cares or has the means to send their child to a private school. It would be great if you could direct yoru taxes to the area you wanted but the gov and teacher unions won't do anything to help this.

[–] • 1 pt

Not all parents are in a position to pay for a good education for their child, and not all parents care. A public school system at least provides some opportunities for the children of those parents. If you want to improve the public school system, it'll probably take more of other people's money, because I doubt the parents who don't give a shit or can't pay will be changing anytime soon.

Trying to avoid people being trapped in an uneducated underclass is beneficial for a country.

[–] • 1 pt

Even if I agree with everything you stated, I don't believe we aren't spending enough on schools. They don't even manage what they have well.

[–] • 0 pt

They don't even manage what they have well.

I'm sure they could be managed much better, but it's hard to imagine how that's going to improve without spending extra money at least in the short term to identify and eliminate existing deficiencies.

It seems like you're hoping for a spontaneous improvement in human nature and decency... dreams are free.

[–] • 0 pt

Parents who don’t care are a part of the problem. Their children are more likely to have behavior problems and need excessive attention from the teachers. When these teachers appeal to the parent for assistance the parents often blame the teachers, not their child for the situation.

Public money will not solve this problem. Perhaps if those parents, had to pay, even a small monthly amount, they might take their investment in the education more seriously.

Perhaps public schools should offer tiered levels of class rooms. Parents could pay an additional fee for a smaller class size and to insure their children are being taught alongside other children whose parents have made similar investment.

[–] • 1 pt

See here is the problem however... If you return to the old ways of funding education the reality is that most NPC caliber people simply neglect to educate their children because it costs them out of pocket. And when the lower tiers of your society neglect to educate their children, you end up with a generation of uneducated poor people. And when you have a generation of uneducated poor people you end up with far worse social problems in you society. Education is "free" to the masses because it is good for society. It is one of the few things we know of that has a direct positive effect on every single metric by which we judge our society. Name a problem and there is data that shows that the problem is positively impacted in the long term by more/better education. So even if you do not receive the direct benefit of the education system, spending public funds to ensure you do not have roving gangs of retarded children is still a good idea.

[–] • 1 pt

So, aside for venting your frustration about it, what would you suggest be done that is ACTUALLY within our means to execute, without having to deal with the government to do implement it?