Thank you stranger. That helps.
Worse part of this is that she (my mother) contacted my wife to get my attention.
The entire conversation I did screenshots so she knew what happened....now my wife feels responsible and told me she is sorry she did it, and I told her this was something she needed to do.
Something I needed to do, and it just is now.
She sucked it up and I told her she does it again tell me....dont keep it from me. That isn't what she as my wife should do.
Contacting your wife to get to you is another well-known tactic and I think might've been an attempt to make her the "flying monkey". Your wife shouldn't feel too bad. Again, this is what narcissists do. Yall both need to read up on NPD and understand the tactics and how to handle them.
Again, I dont usually recommend reddit, but check out their older posts in narcissistic abuse or justnomil. Just be warned to overlook shill shit. It was very helpful and therapeutic for me, though.
When you realize what they are, it helps to know that its not you that is crazy. Gaslighting is such a mental fuckery and I hate it so much.
That's NPD in a nutshell. If they can't contact you, they'll contact others via proxy and try and manipulate them.
Same shit will happen with your son - it'll all be manipulation tactics. Why submit your son to that bullshit?
Secondly, your wife should be keeping no secrets from you. That's how narcissists drive a wedge between relationships. She shouldn't be keeping secrets from you anyway.
I won't.
It is why I did what I did...it hurt to do it because I know with me it is final even though I didn't get resolve.
You get resolve from knowing you did the right thing to protect your son from manipulative horseshit, doing your deed as a father to protect him from said horseshit.
I completely agree with @notsee , you may want to look at borderline as well. Cut ties. Love and lead your wife.
I don't know the age of your kid, but understand that there's a good chance he's your mom's next attempted point of contact. I have no advice on what the best way to caution him about it is, but I'd go so far as to tell you to expect it.
my experience in family dynamics being: I found out I had a half-brother when I answered my grandfather's phone for him, and he (the brother) was calling because my physically abusive (and previously disowned) narcissist of a father goaded the kid into calling Grandpa to "check on his health, and see if they could come visit." (Multiple family members had standing restraining orders against Dear Ol' Dad, so the answer was a polite "No. Sorry for your situation, kid."
Edit: didn't see Thalassa's point below. Beat me by nine hours.
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