> Such a simple question, and you still haven't answered. Have we been to the moon? 1) You retracted it as a condition to continue arguing (not that I give a fuck if you stop). 2) Why would I want to expand my arguments with the flattard? > That's one explanation...or the sun is moving away from us. Which is trivially refuted by the video (WHICH YOU LINKED TO) that shows the zoomed in sun setting below the horizon, from bottom to top, without changing size. > Exactly what would happen if it was moving away from us. No, you retarded monkey, line of sight dictates that the bottom would still be visible. You are now in retarded monkey shutdown mode, arguing out of both sides of your mouth, on the one hand claim that it is shrinking, and on the other hand claim, when it clearly is NOT shrinking into the distance on the zoomed in video, that's what we really expect to happen. I knew we would get to this point, and since you bring nothing new to the table, and deny reality in contradictory fashion, I have nothing further to add. I can't teach a retarded monkey algebra. And I can't teach a retarded monkey hand signs if all he wants to do is throw feces at the zookeper. > Keep watching, you might learn something. You're spending this much time already with a 'retard'...what's another 15 minutes? You don't get to dictate my time to me. I'm not wasting another 15 minutes when the first 2 are trivially refuted. And do you have any answers to those refutations? No. You just want me to waste more time watching a garbage video. And you're right, I wasted a lot of time on you, but this is where it ends. I met your initial challenge and all further challenges. You have not met mine. > I'm willing to learn, are you? No, you are not. You've demonstrated that over and over. You don't acknowledge when you are wrong, you argue in contradictory fashion, over and over again, even after I pointed it out multiples times. > Do you agree that the way the sun and stars move isn't 100% proof of the earth being a ball? You have it completely backwards. YOU are the one making extraordinary claims, that there's a giant, centuries old conspiracy by countless people to pretend the Earth is round, for... reasons. We use the spherical Earth model because it WORKS. When we want to build a star chart that shows the position of the stars for any time and location, we use the spherical Earth model. It WORKS. We don't need to invent 4 rotating spheres that don't predict anything. When we want to prediction solar eclipses down to the minute across the USA, we use a spherical model of the Earth because it WORKS. No flattard can do this. We can explain why the sun dips below the horizon without resorting to bullshit arguments that ignore the halo, or make deceitful analogies about hills. The seasons, satellites, navigation, the stars over head -- they are all straightforward outcomes of a spherical Earth. You, on the otherhand, grasp at the flimsiest of straws to support your belief in a flat Earth. Sad.