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Just like we can look at the track record of socialism to the point where it has been mercilessly meme'd to death about , I feel like we can look at places where Accelerationism has been tried as a political strategy. In most places I can think of, unless people fight back, it just keeps getting worse. Did North Korea not accelerate hard enough to make things worse? Did Rhodesia/Zimbabwe not accelerate enough? Maybe Venezuela has to hyperinflate and starve a bit more before the Accelerationist strategy kicks in and socialism is expelled from the country.

Perhaps the reason is because so many people look to the Fall of the Berlin Wall as proof of the success of the merits of Accelerationism. For one, is it really? Wouldn't Russia today be a million times more affluent, powerful, and successful had they fought against communism? We'd still have as much, if not more, historical arguments against Socialism. Secondly, it's not apparent that Accelerationism was what caused the Soviet Union's collapse. There was a long, arduous, slow, intrapolitical and international battle that slowly raised the Soviet Union from the depth of the terrors of Stalin's gulags to even get to a point where they could admit that something as big as Chernobyl happened to the international community, and then finally could allow Perestroika to happen. To argue that Perestroika happened just because "The Soviet Union had no other choice, see, Accelerationism works" is something I find incredibly difficult to believe, especially given the continuing, modern examples (North Korea, mainly) that fly in the face of this. And least of all, it flies in the face of those in the former Soviet Union and around the world that did try to make it a freer place to live.

Theoretically speaking, although it is rather simplistic, I think the key reason that Accelerationism does not and will not work is the . The government has every incentive to, and follows up to, make it incredibly hard to decrease its size and scope. In short, .

In this regard, the size and scope of tyranny is similar in a lot of respects to entropy, and from what I can understand, this is where a lot of Accelerationists are emotionally coming from. If the heat bath/totalitarianism is inevitable, then let's just get it over with. Now, I don't quite agree with that, because for one there has been many moments where the fires of totalitarianism and tyranny have been beaten back by the sweat of society's brow. The American Revolution, Peel's fight against the Corn Laws, and the Fall of the Berlin Wall as I argued above. But also, Have you forgotten how to have, hold, and carry hope in your hearts? That's the answer to nihilism, not giving in even more to the depths of despair.

I've seen to the current hopelessness is some line of "You're a sucker". Where is your will to fight at all? Where is your hope? Where the is your soul? I don't know, maybe my parents raised me poorly to be honest, when in fact I'm a sucker. Right? Only a sucker gives--right? There's two ways to look at that: What a noble thing to do. Or, what a sucker. And I think when you transition to a world where you are a sucker for being honest and failing to exploit opportunities like that, you are on the road to hell. Whether it is socialism or capitalism. But I do think this is more prevalent in socialism, which is all the more reason to fight against it in every moral domain possible. Certain systems enhance a moral compass, and some destroy it. I think in the Soviet Union you were a sucker if you played by the rules, because no one did. But we haven't gotten to that point yet. I don't want to suggest it's easy to fix this: we just need to change norms and culture. But I don't think you can talk about this descent into cronyism that we are rightfully accusing the globalist system of and suggesting it's going to get worse, and ignore the cultural and educational possibilities to fight against it.

I know it's simplistic, but shouldn't we keep fighting to always reduce government budgets as much as we can? It would be best for the public weal if all that the bureaucrats infesting the Federal Reserve, the SEC, etc. ever did in their working lives was to play tiddlywinks and watch color TV. We don't need to give them more power over our lives just because of hopelessness induced urges to Accelerationism. Just have a little bit of hope, goddamit.

Tl;dr, fuck Accelerationists. Fite me irl.

Just like we can look at the track record of socialism to the point where it has been mercilessly meme'd to death about ["how it's never been tried"](https://files.catbox.moe/u8951q.gif), I feel like we can look at places where Accelerationism has been tried as a political strategy. In most places I can think of, unless people fight back, it just keeps getting worse. Did North Korea not accelerate hard enough to make things worse? Did Rhodesia/Zimbabwe not accelerate enough? Maybe Venezuela has to hyperinflate and starve a bit more before the Accelerationist strategy kicks in and socialism is expelled from the country. Perhaps the reason is because so many people look to the Fall of the Berlin Wall as proof of the success of the merits of Accelerationism. For one, is it really? Wouldn't Russia today be a million times more affluent, powerful, and successful had they fought against communism? We'd still have as much, if not more, historical arguments against Socialism. Secondly, it's not apparent that Accelerationism was what caused the Soviet Union's collapse. There was a long, arduous, slow, intrapolitical and international battle that slowly raised the Soviet Union from the depth of the terrors of Stalin's gulags to even get to a point where they could admit that something as big as Chernobyl happened to the international community, and then finally could allow Perestroika to happen. To argue that Perestroika happened just because "The Soviet Union had no other choice, see, Accelerationism works" is something I find incredibly difficult to believe, especially given the continuing, modern examples (North Korea, mainly) that fly in the face of this. And least of all, it flies in the face of those in the former Soviet Union and around the world that did try to make it a freer place to live. Theoretically speaking, although it is rather simplistic, I think the key reason that Accelerationism does not and will not work is the [Ratchet Effect](https://www.independent.org/publications/books/summary.asp?id=101). The government has every incentive to, and follows up to, make it incredibly hard to decrease its size and scope. In short, [government agencies expand to exploit perceived short-term opportunities, but fail to retreat once circumstances change](https://blog.independent.org/2020/03/21/coronacrisis-and-leviathan/). In this regard, the size and scope of tyranny is similar in a lot of respects to entropy, and from what I can understand, this is where a lot of Accelerationists are emotionally coming from. If the heat bath/totalitarianism is inevitable, then let's just get it over with. Now, I don't quite agree with that, because for one there has been many moments where the fires of totalitarianism and tyranny have been beaten back by the sweat of society's brow. The American Revolution, Peel's fight against the Corn Laws, and the Fall of the Berlin Wall as I argued above. But also, [assume for a minute that the fight is a lost cause, why should that imply abandoning the battle? In the first place, as gloomy as things may look, the inevitable may be postponed a bit. Why isn’t that worthwhile? Isn’t it better to lose in thirty years than to lose now?](https://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/murray-n-rothbard/on-resisting-evil-2/) Have you forgotten how to have, hold, and carry hope in your hearts? That's the answer to nihilism, not giving in even more to the depths of despair. [Another response](https://poal.co/s/AskPoal/244678/0adf018e-d341-4265-a1d5-884cbafd5757#cmnts) I've seen to the current hopelessness is some line of "You're a sucker". ["The U.S. government is going to collapse, you're a sucker if you don't at least argue for some cash when everything collapses."](https://poal.co/s/AskPoal/244678/9b5b1341-f908-4ff6-a3fe-260228d0df34#cmnts) Where is your will to fight at all? Where is your hope? Where the is your soul? [Are you that broken?](https://poal.co/s/AskPoal/244678/844af759-e90a-4bb8-a0f6-572f6478282d#cmnts) I don't know, maybe my parents raised me poorly to be honest, when in fact I'm a sucker. Right? Only a sucker gives--right? There's two ways to look at that: What a noble thing to do. Or, what a sucker. And I think when you transition to a world where you are a sucker for being honest and failing to exploit opportunities like that, you are on the road to hell. Whether it is socialism or capitalism. But I do think this is more prevalent in socialism, which is all the more reason to fight against it in every moral domain possible. Certain systems enhance a moral compass, and some destroy it. I think in the Soviet Union you were a sucker if you played by the rules, because no one did. But we haven't gotten to that point yet. I don't want to suggest it's easy to fix this: we just need to change norms and culture. But I don't think you can talk about this descent into cronyism that we are rightfully accusing the globalist system of and suggesting it's going to get worse, and ignore the cultural and educational possibilities to fight against it. I know it's simplistic, but shouldn't we keep fighting to always reduce government budgets as much as we can? It would be best for the public weal if all that the bureaucrats infesting the Federal Reserve, the SEC, etc. ever did in their working lives was to play tiddlywinks and watch color TV. We don't need to give them more power over our lives just because of hopelessness induced urges to Accelerationism. Just have a little bit of hope, goddamit. Tl;dr, fuck Accelerationists. Fite me irl.

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Actually, we're already deeply into something barely distinguishable from socialism.

If the state's money touches something, it is the state. If a company is funded or benefits from the state, it is the state.

Companies simply reinvest the money the state gives them into the politicians who repeat the process until jews run the entire thing.

We're so deep into this that companies don't even pretend to be bipartisan or conservative at all, even companies that liberals hate like Wal-Mart openly despise us, even if it costs them millions to do so.

Companies with 1% market share can be pumped up with funny money until they're the biggest company in their industry. This is how companies are bought into the system and created out of thin air.

We're well past the point that this is anything resembling a free market or a free country - we're literally a slave class working to enrich the establishment

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And when the current slave working class is dysfunctional or rebellious they replace it with another stock.

Then make them fight us to replace us, what good is surrender if you're going to be destroyed regardless

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The government of the nation we created as Whites have been turned against us, occupied. The sooner the nation collapses, the sooner that boot is off our necks.

It's not despair, it's pure hope. https://poal.co/s/whitepills/241625

The nation is never going to collapse. This idea that a nation will self destruct under ZOG is laughable especially when the native population has no fighting spirit or rebellious spirit in them. The Soviet Union, changed to the Russian Federation yet the (((elites))) who rule there haven't changed.

Yet if even a few percent of the population rose up with guns and struck from the shadows there's little or nothing the government could effectively do. Everyone is just too big of a coward to do literally anything at all

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It's not that they are too afraid it's just that it's impossible to organize a large enough group without the movement or uprising being intercepted and hijacked by MEEAC and ZOG

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"Ratchet effect"

I've noticed it for years, very cool that someone gave it an appropriate name.

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Fite me irl.

Sounds like accelerationism to me

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I'm always torn between getting massive loans, buying things of value that can't be repossessed and defaulting on the loan or choosing hope. Still hoping for now, by the time I go for a loan they probably won't be giving them anymore lol. Dreading mark of the beast "non-compulsiary" vaccine days.

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Yeah, accelerationists are retarded. Look how well it did for New Zealand? Guns taken away just like what happened 20 years ago in Australia. "Muh accelerationism" is just retards making everything worse for everyone.

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We had accelerationism in 2016-2019 and few woke up. In 2020 there was more accelerationism more than every prior, and things are only worse.

Interesting that you mention Evangelion's creator. Why did he say that, and what was wrong about Evangelion? I don't watch anime like you wapanese do.

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I'm making a reference to the . Misquoting it to Hideki Anno is .

But why did you choose Evangelion of all animes out there?

There are other anime?