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No. It is desire for the product that determines it's value. Handmade dovetail furniture is BETTER MADE than IKEA shit. This is true. However, you could work a hundred hours on a finely crafted artisan quality piece of furniture; you could command a price that you feel is worthy of the labor you put into it and reasonable enough for the customer; and it doesn't mean shit if no one has the desire for the product.

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I see what you’re saying. I agree demand is a factor of a price. I can’t agree human labor is also not one.

Marx general argument is that poor people don’t use their collective power enough. Doesn’t make sense why they don’t.

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I agree that labor absolutely is a component for price setting and value. Where I disagree with Marx is his view that labor is more or less the be all end all to determining value.

I agree that poor don't use their collective power enough. Of course, where I disengage from Marx is his methodology.