Mullis knew and wasn't silent about it. >“These guys like Fauci get up there and start talking to me, you know, he doesn’t know anything really about anything, and I’d say that to his face. Nothing. The man thinks you can take a blood sample and stick it in an electron microscope and if it’s got a virus in there you’d know it. He doesn’t understand electron microscopy, and he doesn’t understand medicine, and he shouldn’t be in the position he’s in. Most of those guys up there on the top are just total administrative people, and they don’t know anything about what’s going on at the bottom. Those guys have an agenda, which is not what we would like them to have, being that we pay for them to take care of our health in some way. They’ve got a personal kind of agenda, they make up their own rules, they change them as they go. And Tony Fauci doesn’t mind going on television in front of the people who pay his salary and lie directly into the camera.”