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[–] 8 pts

You know what's a shitty thought.

Say covid is that bad it's killing as much as they claim.

How many people haven't died through shitty doctors accidentally killing patients because they avoided hospitals?

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

that's a good point, as well as traffic collisions and not eating fast food as much

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That's funny. The definitive data about deaths in 2020 will only be available in 2022, yet, he somehow knows them in advance.

Here is some real data (coming from CDC, nor a random retard on Twitter):

https://usafacts.org/articles/preliminary-us-death-statistics-more-deaths-in-2020-than-2019-coronavirus-age-flu/

Due to lag time in reporting, official data on 2020 deaths will likely not be released until early 2022. However, preliminary weekly data can provide estimates of how the pandemic affected deaths in the US this year.

So far, more than 290,000 Americans have died of COVID-19. According to preliminary weekly data from the Centers for Disease Control and Protection (CDC), 2,926,129 people have died from all causes between January 1 and November 28 of this year. While this data is preliminary and is incomplete for the last eight weeks, it provides for useful context.

According to the same estimates, 2,852,590 people died in 2019, meaning at least 73,000 more people have died so far in 2020 than 2019, despite missing or incomplete data for October through December. If deaths continue at the weekly average of approximately 60,000 per week, at least 240,000 more people would die in 2020, resulting in more than 3.1 million deaths. If the population grew at the same rate in 2020 as in 2019 (0.5%), this would result in a death rate of 9.4 deaths per 1,000, making it the highest death rate in decades.

For context, the most recent estimates from the Census Bureau, which are from 2017, projected that there would be 2.75 million deaths in 2020, accounting for an aging population. The Census Bureau did not expect the nation to reach 3.1 million deaths until 2029 or 2030.

Deaths in 2020 are above average for almost every age group compared to 2015-2019, according to preliminary data from the CDC. Deaths are around average levels for people 25 and younger, which is the age group least affected by COVID-19 deaths. Total deaths in this age group were actually slightly below average during lockdowns at the start of the pandemic. This may be because travel was down, perhaps reducing the leading cause of death for this age group — accidents.

However, deaths have been 20-50% above average levels for most age groups. Deaths among people 25-44 have been particularly above normal, since deaths among people this young are generally low.

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I'm not saying that usafacts is wrong, but it was created by a jew. They have proven themselves to be untrustworthy.

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I don't care who created it, i don't even care about "usafacts", what i care is that they are reporting CDC data, not simply quoting some random anon from Twitter...

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But you won't know how or why they manipulated the data slightly. Just enough to fit their narrative and just small enough you won't notice. You rely on them for facts is like saying you rely on the mainstream media for news.

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You're right about the totals being delayed.

I made the mistake of bringing up the stats and wound up arguing someone claiming that deaths increased 20%. So, I found the CDC raw data.

Had 5 years of flu and pneumonia deaths and covid deaths for 2020. The thing is, it was actually on a rate to be about 5% loser than average until November.

So, I analyzed the data a little bit and what do you know, at November in the raw data the numbers no longer add to the totals but 20% above totals. The normie could not explain the discrepancy either.

[–] 2 pts

No. "Normal" projection is 2.9m vs "pandemic" projection of 3.2m+.

The cdc hasn't finished adding things up, they'll have 99% in about 2 weeks.

[–] 3 pts

They could add hundreds of thousands to the total anyway and no one would have any way of disproving or confirming it.

[–] -5 pt

Sure, it is all a conspiracy to make Trump lose or whatever. The whole planet shut down for a whole year, massive amounts of money went into developing cures and a vaccine... because this is just like the flu! Believe me! /s

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

What's that? Couldn't hear you. Try taking of your muzzle before speaking next time.

[–] 1 pt

My good god youre in the wrong place son.. Please dont read any more here, trust me when i say, being redpilled hurts. And you being THAT daft.. I fear might actually do damage to your frontal cortex, when youre forced to view the holistic nature of our world. You would need to broaden your mind. It might actually indirectly kill you.. Flee drone, fleee to the other npc.

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Massive amounts of money went into developing a vaccine?

BAHAHAAHAH.

You don’t need a vaccine for a fake disease. Never mind the money coming out of the vaccine though...

https://www.marketplace.org/2020/11/12/how-much-could-pfizer-make-from-a-covid-19-vaccine/

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It's just like the spanish flu, a pandemic of medical malpractice.

Real name of the spanish flu? "The Fort Riley Kansas vaccine-derived meningitis".

Mad scientists killed more people in ww1 than bullets did, by deliberately spreading disease.

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The # of deaths may go up, as it tends to do every year do to population growth. The death rate will be the interesting number to look at. I bet it is lower then some years.

[–] 1 pt

I wouldn't mind some CDC links to backup the info. I 100% believe you but their website is terrible to navigate.

[–] 1 pt

He didn't provide links because he is lying.

Here is the real data (coming from CDC).

https://usafacts.org/articles/preliminary-us-death-statistics-more-deaths-in-2020-than-2019-coronavirus-age-flu/

When they classify every death as covid, of course the figures will be high.

I honestly wonder how many people have been frightened to death because they thought they were going to die from covid.

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When they classify every death as covid

As the article says: According to the same estimates, 2,852,590 people died in 2019, meaning at least 73,000 more people have died so far in 2020 than 2019, despite missing or incomplete data for October through December. If deaths continue at the weekly average of approximately 60,000 per week, at least 240,000 more people would die in 2020, resulting in more than 3.1 million deaths.

I honestly wonder how many people have been frightened to death because they thought they were going to die from covid.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/congressman-elect-luke-letlow-dies-after-covid-diagnosis-n1252520 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9100079/Luke-Letlow-died-COVID-spoke-favor-ending-lockdowns-held-maskless-rallies.html

He wasn't afraid. 41, no existing medical conditions... he thought he was safe, after all "only sick and old people die from COVID-19"... he died anyways and left two young children and a wife.

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Just wait. Theyre still counting ballots

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This is heresy! You are not allowed to to question the religion!

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Someone should reply with the holohoax numbers by American cross for those years to push it to 11!

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This is incorrect, showing projected deaths for 2020 a few months ago. The most recent CDC numbers show that 2020 deaths are up about 15% over 2019. However the increase is not the result of Vovid.

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Every time I try to show this to normies thry say the official monthly numbers take a month to Come out so we will not know for sure until the end of january.. it is crazy the liberal retards always have some answer for everything and those answers just happen to make no sense and are provided by the (((MEEAC ))) Media ENTERTAINMENT EDUCATION ADVERTISING COMPLEX