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It was also for teenagers trying to get a part-time job. Never intended to be a wage you could live on.

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Their aren't enough part time teenagers to do all the jobs that your high and mighty self doesn't want to do. You're speaking nonsense. You wouldn't need a minimum wage if our governments didn't allow trading with chinks and other slave labor countries, concentrate on that.

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You assume too much. Personally, there is not a job that I wouldn't do if need be. Nothing is too dirty.

As a father of teenagers, I can tell you there are not enough jobs for teens these days. Due to all the work place "safety" and piss poor immigration laws, teenagers are pretty much relegated to restaurant and retail work these days. No more pumping gas or picking crops after school.

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Sorry for assuming too much. Better to get your kids learning some valuable trade then wasting time with some useless part time job at a restaurant. Massive shortage in skilled trades people. Start them young. For example in the Czech Republic kids are either journeymen tradesmen by grade 12 or going to university.

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If we kicked out even half the illegals, and stopped coddling our children, you’d see teens working these jobs.

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That's a completely untrue statement. You're a moron.

Minimum wage was intended to cover the basic expenses of living, to be the absolute minimum amount needed for a man to keep his family alive.

It was never intended to be "for teenage part-timers."

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fucking americans...this is why the rest of the world calls you stupid, stop being dumb niggers who cut off their own nose to spite their face, this is the white version of rioting then burning down your own neighbourhood

alternatively if they earn a living wage they are unlikely to turn to crime, they are likely to pay their taxes, they are not going to waste police time, they are productive members of society and in the end you save money on not having to incarcerate them at the tax payers expense, america has the most people in prison despite having a population just over a quarter that of india and china, America also has for profit prisons that bribe judges to send them more prisoners, your system is definition of FUBAR

same thing for mental health treatment, what do you think is going to happen to all of those mentally ill people who cant afford treatment? they will end up criminals or in prison, either way your dumb arse is paying for them, same fucking with with health care, your system is letting you die for profit, who do you think is behind all of this shit? who wants you dead, poor, or unhealthy?

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I agree for the most part, but why single out America? Are all of these issues uniquely American? Is the "rest of the world" in better shape? Is your home country so much greater that you can look down your nose on us? If so, great, what country are you from and how do I move there?

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my other comment did not seem to post so sorry if this a repeat, op said $ not £

while england has its problems its mainly to do with bureaucracy, land prices, planning laws, inequality and corruption, we dont have people dying because they cant afford insulin or being sent to prison to fill a quota

as for the rest of the world inequality and corruption are the main issues everywhere for the same damn reason, every damn time

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You do have a shitload of Pakis using up the majority of mental health resources because they can’t stop fucking their cousins.

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The reason Americans are so retarded that they'll actually argue in favor of companies paying people less than it takes to survive, is because they're fucking morons who are jealous of the idea of someone they think is a loser getting paid a livable wage, and take it as a personal offense.

HOW DARE YOU PAY THAT FAST FOOD WORKER I DON'T RESPECT ENOUGH MONEY TO RAISE THEIR FAMILY WHEN I DO A WAY MORE COMPLEX JOB. THEY SHOULD BE BENEATH ME!

They want to keep other people down so they can feel more important. They need someone beneath them so they can maintain their own sense of being more valuable than someone else is, and they don't think about how a system which depends on paying people less than what they need for survival is literally promoting crime, degeneracy, and death in exchange for CEOs making more profit.

They're crabs in a fucking bucket.

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"just pay your blackmailer, they need it more than you anyway"

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alternatively an ounce of prevention if worth a pound of the cure

you can either deal with your societies problems when they are small or let them fester then spend more dealing with them later, if you are against that are either a useful idiot or a jew

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Fiat wages just like Fiat currency has a shelf life....wait for it

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Op nails it!!!!! Rather than Government paying subsidies, they passed the buck to employers, then passed down the supply chain to consumers to personally pay per transaction who... in return paying Government higher taxes due to income bracket. You were fucked 7 ways and Government wins again.

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Or for a teenager who’s working their first job. Or somebody who’s getting off welfare. Or a bored stay at home mom who just wants a retail job to get out of the house sometimes.

It’s not a living wage.

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>minimum wage (is) for the dropout with a drug conviction who barely shows up to dig the ditch. I am tired of paying his welfare..

You are completely fucking wrong.

Minimum wage was NEVER intended to be a bottom-barrel payment for people you think are losers.

>Franklin Delano Roosevelt, when the original minimum-wage law was passed in 1933:

>"No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country.

>“By business I mean the whole of commerce, as well as the whole of industry; by workers I mean all workers, the white collar class as well as the men in overalls; and by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level; I mean the wages of decent living.”

Whatever bullshit you think about people who, for whatever reason, aren't able to get more than a minimum wage job, IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED to be the minimum amount of money a person required to live a decent life. IT WAS NEVER INTENDED to be less than the costs of living.

Unfuck yourself.

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The dropout with a drug conviction who can barely give a fuck about work or the system you're paying into - he is the same person victimized and crushed by the society around him, condescended and hated by the fellows around him, because he wasn't agreeable enough to believe in that mental slime curriculum forced on him in school.

Because person A is more inclined to academics and mind-numbing memorization, more inclined to intellectual pursuits, they deserve more than person B? Person B has no worth because they're suffering and abandoned by the civilization around them?

Dumbfucks like OP that want to cut the poorest and most down-trodden of us off of their basic needs to survive, they need to be slapped quite hard.

Why don't you focus your energy towards the actual thieves that steal your tax dollars, poison you, and drive person B to eventual suicide and over-dose. Stop being so fucking basic.