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There was something else I wanted to say, in light of the fact that both of you presented your own commentary on the 'tribulations' that resistors will face. To start, I'll get something out of the way that you may take issue with: I believe that certain truths find their way to the surface in art. Sometimes that truth is intentionally seeded in the art, hidden beneath the surface story. I'm mainly talking about film here. Other times, and in other art forms, I believe that some shared unconscious realization can erupt in the form of an inspiration that we sense as emanating from outside of ourselves. Again, I want to focus on film, one in particular (though there are more).

Holding in mind everything that I said in that previous, longer post, I believe that the resistance we are seeing to Leftist wave in politics is a false movement. I believe it is a decoy. That is to say, both sides of this are engineered by the same puppeteers.

I raise the point because the Matrix trilogy was based largely on Beaudrillard's work. I've read a few books on the philosophy present in the film, and I was struck by how most ignored what I considered to be the most philosophically interesting part of the film!

In the scene when Morpheus has been captured, and Agent Smith is speaking with him alone, Smith says something about how the first version of the Matrix failed because it was too perfect. That immediately invokes Nozick's Experience Machine, but I believe that this single part of the first film was a key to truly understanding the real esoteric truth of those films. I've not found a single analysis of the trilogy online that has pointed this out.

In the film, I believe that the resistance, that is, everyone who believes they are freed from the Matrix, was not actually free. In the scene I just mentioned, Smith states that the failure of the first version of the Matrix was due to its perfection. The machines had tried to create their understanding of human heaven, and it failed because there wasn't enough conflict and suffering. Humans simply rejected it for that reason.

I believe that human beings naturally experience a skepticism about reality. Here, I mean a true philosophical skepticism. It's gnostic in one sense. We feel out of place, as though we are from somewhere else, or that there is simply something 'off' about this world. Morpheus calls this feeling the 'splinter in the mind'.

In order for the Matrix to be successful, the machines (in my opinion) would have realized that the ability to 'be free' would be crucial for people to accept the Matrix. Moreover, they'd already recognize that we do not value what we are given. The ideal, then, would be for people to fight their way out. This way, they would truly believe that the world they escaped into (called Zion in the film) would be the real world - after all, they'd suffered to gain their secret truths, like an initiation into the real.

The film is clear to highlight the antagonism that the people who are free from the Matrix will experience from those who are 'still plugged in'. That's the detail I want to emphasize.

Again holding what I said in mind in my last comment, the only way to convince a mind of its own freedom is to let it fight. When humans are fighting, they believe they are free, or getting closer to the real. I believe that the conservative movement (especially at its fringes, ala the Q movement) is intentionally engineered. It's part of the Matrix. The battle is simulated, and everyone goes along with it because they've poked our morals.

It is precisely this battle that is going to usher us into deeper simulation, into the situation I described before. The coming machine consciousness is not meant for everyone. Some of us will resist. But our resistance will be crucial in the way that it facilitates the movement of those who are receptive into deeper simulation. They will go together like a herd because it will be our opposition that is used to push them there. They'll welcome it because of us.

I don't precisely know what this means for us. But I say this to you because I think we need to be incredibly careful about how we align ourselves right now. I am personally incredibly skeptical about Donald Trump, the entire alt-right phenomena, and beyond skeptical of Q. I think these are false idols, and they're part of the Matrix. We are meant to be the fight, against which people will welcome what is to come.

It's important to recognize that we are participating (yes, you guys and myself), even now. Our activity here, and previously at Voat. We are part of this dialectic, whether we like that fact or not. The question is, what do we do about it. It has really been the case lately that my only reason for being here is because of you guys and the conversation. I'm trying to distance myself from what used to feel like a comradery among the reactionary right.

That's not to say that I dismiss the values of the traditional conservative, nor do I dismiss Christianity. Not even close. It has more to do with having the far-seeing vision to see the AntiChrist, and that it is using our own morals against us. I believe both poles of the political arena are being manipulated right now, led like cattle.

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Holy smokes, you got it ! That’s exactly what I thought of the Matrix. I actually really liked the second and third movies, despite their weirdness, because of the philosophy they were grappling with. It was really digging into the details of the systems of control that were in place.

I’ve coined the term theriomachist for what we are doing here - “Beast-Fighting”. Theriomachy is opposing the machinations of the antiChrist system, independently of whether or not one is Christian. Not only Christians will suffer - all men who oppose tyranny have everything to lose.

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Theriomachy

Great word. Love that.

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Thanks, I think it’s an important touchstone spanning Communions and/or lack thereof. I’ve always been impressed with how seriously even secular normies take the Apocalypse. It’s relatively uncommon for anyone to simply dismiss it as “idle tales”. The thought of taking the Mark makes most people uneasy, in my experience - even if they laugh at the Resurrection or the Virgin Birth.