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Millions of us are out on the road at any given moment and the risk of dying in a crash is 1 in 130. When we get in the car everyday we do not assume we're going to get in a wreck, never mind die. We have rules of the road and every driver we encounter is given the benefit of the doubt that they are safe. In other words, 100% benefit of the doubt that the guy in front or behind you is not a complete idiot. However, 100% is not practical is it, yet we continue to drive. We know there is a risk of crashing despite your own confidence in your ability to navigate rush hour traffic. We know that we share the road with bad drivers, drunk drivers, new drivers, young drivers, old drivers, poor sighted drivers and those with medical impairments. Accidents are a common and daily occurrence.

How does this relate to covid? Well, the parallels are pretty clear but inverted. The opposite seems to be true in the minds of the coof doomsdayers. Everyone is assumed to be infected and the responsibility lays with the government to ensure you are safe. This means, all infected people must be locked down regardless if they can transmit to others or not. Regardless if they show signs of being infected. Regardless if they are healthy. This includes you, the healthy doomsdayer.

Applying this logic to driving we can expect this. No one can drive until there are no more accidents. You are no longer able to decide for yourself to take a risk by driving. It is now no longer your responsibility to be confident in your ability to navigate traffic, despite how good you are. As long as accidents happen, you cannot drive. Bus companies, airlines, taxi companies and government owned transportation however, are exempt.

The role of government is not to ensure you don't die in a car accident. This is your risk alone and your responsibility as a safe driver. Yes, the government is responsible to ensure you understand the rules of the road and how to operate a motor vehicle before issuing your permit but before you argue this is the same as a vaccine, I will refute that now. You are still at risk of contracting and spreading Covid even with a vaccine. Your skills at being cognizant of your own health (driving ability) still falls on you. It is still your responsibility to not get sick, not others. You still need to give others the benefit of the doubt that they are safe despite knowing even those with a permit doesn't guarantee they are good drivers. A vaccine doesn't do that. Knowledge does. When you caught a cold, did you blame society? When you got in an accident, who's fault was it? It is not the government's job to ensure you don't get sick, only to make sure you are aware of the risks and mitigate them as they occur. If you don't want to die in a car accident, don't drive. If you don't want the coof, stay home.

The floor is yours.

Millions of us are out on the road at any given moment and the risk of dying in a crash is 1 in 130. When we get in the car everyday we do not assume we're going to get in a wreck, never mind die. We have rules of the road and every driver we encounter is given the benefit of the doubt that they are safe. In other words, 100% benefit of the doubt that the guy in front or behind you is not a complete idiot. However, 100% is not practical is it, yet we continue to drive. We know there is a risk of crashing despite your own confidence in your ability to navigate rush hour traffic. We know that we share the road with bad drivers, drunk drivers, new drivers, young drivers, old drivers, poor sighted drivers and those with medical impairments. Accidents are a common and daily occurrence. How does this relate to covid? Well, the parallels are pretty clear but inverted. The opposite seems to be true in the minds of the coof doomsdayers. Everyone is assumed to be infected and the responsibility lays with the government to ensure you are safe. This means, all infected people must be locked down regardless if they can transmit to others or not. Regardless if they show signs of being infected. Regardless if they are healthy. This includes you, the healthy doomsdayer. Applying this logic to driving we can expect this. No one can drive until there are no more accidents. You are no longer able to decide for yourself to take a risk by driving. It is now no longer your responsibility to be confident in your ability to navigate traffic, despite how good you are. As long as accidents happen, you cannot drive. Bus companies, airlines, taxi companies and government owned transportation however, are exempt. The role of government is not to ensure you don't die in a car accident. This is your risk alone and your responsibility as a safe driver. Yes, the government is responsible to ensure you understand the rules of the road and how to operate a motor vehicle before issuing your permit but before you argue this is the same as a vaccine, I will refute that now. You are still at risk of contracting and spreading Covid even with a vaccine. Your skills at being cognizant of your own health (driving ability) still falls on you. It is still your responsibility to not get sick, not others. You still need to give others the benefit of the doubt that they are safe despite knowing even those with a permit doesn't guarantee they are good drivers. A vaccine doesn't do that. Knowledge does. When you caught a cold, did you blame society? When you got in an accident, who's fault was it? It is not the government's job to ensure you don't get sick, only to make sure you are aware of the risks and mitigate them as they occur. If you don't want to die in a car accident, don't drive. If you don't want the coof, stay home. The floor is yours.

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You need a license and insurance to drive legally. There are vision and driving tests to get the license. The vehicle has been regulated in countless ways, adding considerable expense to its production. The gas in the tank is heavily taxed. The roads are predominantly owned by the state and if you drive on them in a way the state does not approve of there is financial punishment and possibly jail time.

Except for in Jew York and Commiefornia the coof isn't something the cops give a fuck about.

Bad comparison.

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>You need a license and insurance to drive legally

Legally isn't safely

>There are vision and driving tests to get the license.

Doesn't guarantee safety. Wearing your glasses is still your responsibility. Tests only prove knowledge base and skill.

>The vehicle has been regulated in countless ways, adding considerable expense to its production

Non-sequitor

>The gas in the tank is heavily taxed.

Non-sequitor

> The roads are predominantly owned by the state and if you drive on them in a way the state does not approve of there is financial punishment and possibly jail time.

Your responsibility.

> the coof isn't something the cops give a fuck about.

Non-sequitor

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The government has done everything it can to make driving safe, from seatbelts to airbags to impact testing. Next will be self driving cars. Eventually driving manually will be prohibitive to do. Your argument still sucks.

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The government has done what it can to mitigate risk. It doesn't prevent risk. Seatbelts and airbags too cause risk. An airbag can take a child's head off. A seatbelt can prevent quick escape and even cause unnecessary injury. The government does not put your seatbelt on for you, you do. Putting a child in the front seat or choosing to wear a seatbelt is still your choice.

You have not given good arguments.

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They force you to wear a seatbelt.

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No they don't. They force you to pay a fine.

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The obvious answer is that this isnt about saving lives and this was is in fact a plandemic.

COVID was released by the CCP, to help unseat Trump, shut down the democracy movement in China, and shift the overton window towards socialism globally. Its been a smashing success. Chinese are locked down, Trump has lost, and a large chunk of conservatives want the government to cut everyone checks because of a problem the government created. Nevermind the social control, end of medical privacy, and the billions of dollars wall street is making off this shit, all while pushing us further into national debt slavery.

The vast majority of the dead are elderly in long term care facilities, killing them off means much less overhead to the state and insurance companies to keep citizens alive, billions more dollars right there.

Money, and power dude thats what its always about.

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I don't disagree with any of that but in terms of the "alternate" reality going on, my debate premise is predicated off the covidiot logic.