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I don't care if masks work or not.

If you want to change someone's mind, keep it really simple, and to one point.

Don't argue about masks, don't bother making arguments about vaccines, just simply state that the disease is not very deadly, and has a mortality rate of 3 people out of 10,000 if you are under 50 years of age.

It doesn't matter whether masks work or not

It doesn't matter whether the vaccine is safe or dangerous.

What matters is that the disease itself is basically a non-issue to start with.

I don't care if masks work or not. If you want to change someone's mind, keep it really simple, and to one point. Don't argue about masks, don't bother making arguments about vaccines, just simply state that the disease is not very deadly, and has a mortality rate of 3 people out of 10,000 if you are under 50 years of age. It doesn't matter whether masks work or not It doesn't matter whether the vaccine is safe or dangerous. What matters is that the disease itself is basically a non-issue to start with.

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[–] 2 pts

Did the jews give up when they were trying to convince everybody that faggotry was great? They were like hell no, let’s destroy christianity and brain wash all the kids through porn and public education. Now we have a month long holiday for asshole sex. Take a lesson from that.

I don’t agree with OP. This is a serious disease. Ive known people that died of it. Its not that serious if you’re under 50. If you’re 60 or older it’s quite serious, and I am not okay with dismissing the deaths of our elderly who are dying years before their time. Ive researched the disease. Ive researched other similar viruses. Ive researched a bunch of drugs and treatments for covid.

Guess what? There’s a cure. The deaths are real. They’re unnecessary. The quaratine measures are a sham to exploit the crisis. They have cheap safe treatments and preventative medications.

I keep telling people there’s a cure. I don’t care if liberals die. I don’t wants decent white people to though. Occassionally I change people’s minds. I also get a lot of flack. 3....2.....1....

[–] 2 pts

Prove those people you know died from covid and not some other condition. You do know that hospitals are paid an additional $25,000 per covid patient, so they are financially incentivized to claim covid on all patients, don't you?

[–] -1 pt

Yeah right. Maybe a bunch of people Ive known for years are lying to me about family members who got sick and who they saw getting sicker and dying in the fucking hospital. Or maybe the hospital was putting on a big larp having their loved ones hooked up to a nasal cannula for fun. Maybe their loved ones were just play acting that they couldn’t breath. Maybe I just imagined seeing my neighbor gaspiing for air and the ambulance hauling him away.

You sound like those fucking flat earthers. There isn’t any evidence that would satisfy you. If you watched your mother die of it in front of your eyes you would still claim it was a jewish scam. I hate that there are people this stupid in the world.

[–] 2 pts

So you are willing to blame covid for that when you have no clue whether it was a bacterial infection or pneumonia or any other respatory disease?

99.997% survival rate for those that contract covid. The CDC website lists 2.6 previous conditions for 99% of those who have died from supposed covid.

Tell me again who is ignoring the evidence.

Hospitals do get an extra $25,000 for claiming a patient has covid, without any evidence at all, not even a test is required, just a presumption. But don't let the facts blind you to the reality.

99.997% survival rate

[–] 1 pt

So you don't have any proof. Why bring bullshit emotional arguments like "if you saw your mother die" when someone ask for evidence? You're a fucking cunt that talks big and have nothing to show for it. You must be a geriatric yourself to be so afraid of a disease that only kills old, obese assholes.

[–] 0 pt

Yes you have been lied to as many others have also been. Plenty of people get sick and die in hospital, in fact dying is a completely fucking natural occurrence. Wearing masks, social distancing e.t.c. to prevent the renamed seasonal flu is fucking idiotic and leads to a world that wouldn't even be worth living in.

You're full of anecdotal evidence though look at you.

[–] 2 pts

Here's some food for thought.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

>CDC records deaths from various causes.

>Total causes from all deaths has remained the same since about last year.

>In the geriatric demographic, heart attack deaths have fallen significantly.

They are reclassifying deaths. You have basically a situation where the normal seasonal flu (also a serious disease) pattern is progressing exactly as its normal course, with more elderly people dying in the winter and all that.

You can say "this is a different, unique thing. It has it's own genetic code. They've made a test for it." Etc. But what is the different effect? Why aren't more people dying?

It's smoke and mirrors.

Did the jews give up when they were trying to convince everybody that faggotry was great? They were like hell no, let’s destroy christianity and brain wash all the kids through porn and public education. Now we have a month long holiday for asshole sex. Take a lesson from that.

And they haven't gained so much ground by trying to use logic on normies. That's my point I guess.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

I don’t even have to follow the link because I looked at Briand’s presentation carefully. First, the article says the death rate of elderly people didn’t go up. That is false and it isn’t what briand says. She says elderly deaths did not change much as a portion of deaths overall!

But overall deaths were up ~17% since march according to her own data from March to September, over the previous 3 year average— this was all CDC data she used. She did not contest this. She argues that because of shifting demographics there is an approximately 2% natural increase in deaths from year to year, making the 3 year average about 4% under what would be an expected “normal” year. Which means there is really only a 13% increase above “normal”. Of course she was using months with incomplete data and that was several months ago, the real number of deaths for 2020, adjusting for a 2% increase will be at least 15% above the “expected” according to her reasoning.

She make another dishonest arguement in my opinion. She argues that the difference in weekly deaths from the previous 3year average of deaths for that week is within a predictable range of variation for a normal distribution based on earlier observed variation. But this is legerdemain. The probability of 30 weeks in a row of >+10% increase is infinitesimal in a normal variation and can only be explained by a signal change. She knows that but she’s playing tricks. I know the tricks. Ive played them myself.

Real influenza deaths recorded by the CDC,( listed as contributary cause of death on death certificates by doctors and coroners) are only around 5 to 15 thousand a year. ( the CDC has been try to fear monger with a flu death estimate based on total fuckery— you can take my word for it or I can prove it to you— of around 60,000 or 80,000 deaths, based on assumptions they pulled out their assholes and I can make mince meat out of in a nanosecond. ) Estimated flu deaths is the unfounded bullshit number they’ve tried to scare people into getting flu shots with. Real flu deaths are low and they are recorded, not estimated. Recorded flu deaths are at 6000 so far this year and a third of them occur in December and are not entered in to the system yet. Looks like a typical flu year so far not including covid deaths.

CDC data for any week is about 25% incomplete or more within the last 8 weeks. We wont have complete 2020 death count data for at least 8 weeks. But recorded deaths are already > than 10% over last year with probably near to 10% data outstanding. Last year was ~2.8 million deaths. We are already at 3.1 I think. That difference will increase. It could be as high as 3.5?

Im telling you Ive looked at the data. Ive crunched the numbers.

[–] 1 pt

Sounds like you have. I'll have to look at this again with what you've highlighted in mind. I like how you threw a flu redpill in there.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

masks dont stop viruses.

masks trap bacteria on the inside.

people wearing masks give themselves chest infections.

those chest infections are then called 'covid'

stop forcing your stupid opinion on other people. oyu dont have that right.

there is no pandemic by the science or the statistics.

every single piece of what i just said is easliy backed up by a 30 second glance at CDC total death counts compared year to year, NIOSH manufacturing requirements, and a basic particle size comparison chart.

if you cant understand a 30 second rundown like that after almost a year of people telling you youre fucking wrong then its not other people that is the problem.

[–] 0 pt

Because I don’t acquire opinions just because of “almost a year of people telling you youre fucking wrong” . Otherwise I would have been a liberal.

People aren’t dying of bacterial pneumonia. They are dying of ARDS from a virus. There’s all sorts of ways for a healthcare worker like a lab technician to verify this is the case such as viral and bacterial culturing and fucking chest x-rays.

People aren’t dying of masks retard.

CDC death counts confirm 200,000+ “excess” number of deaths that doctors have diagnosed as covid.

That didn’t convince me.

[–] 0 pt

Typical vagina has to appeal to emotion.^

[–] 0 pt

Appeal to basic morals. Get some.

[–] 0 pt

kys faggit

[–] 0 pt

Believes in Covid and doesn't see cuckstianity for what it is, control opposition.

You know people that have died and you have been told they had Covid.

You can believe the bullshit you have been told by "medical professionals" responsibile for killing more people through malpractice than all illnesses combined.

[–] 0 pt

Yeah I don’t think my people should die if they because they are christian. Only degenerates think that. Yes I dont think covid deaths are faked. A quarter million americans died in the last year of a severe flu