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[–] [deleted] 9 pts

Democracy is looking worse and worse to me. Most people are beyond retarded. Look around and see who has equal standing... it's really bad. Most people shouldn't have any say.

"Democracy", "democratic", etc. should not have the positive connotation it has today. The USA has lasted only because of the many ways it is not a democracy - States Rights, Senate, Judiciary, Electoral College.

We need something closer to meritocracy, or aristocracy if that turns out to be impossible. Additionally, more decentralized governance to defend against inevitable central corruption.

[–] 12 pts (edited )

You should have to pass an IQ test to vote, and have some stake in the nation, and the future of your people.

The fact that some welfare queen tranny nigger prostitute has the same say in governance as a land owning married tax paying man with 5 children is peak fucking clownworld. The fashpill is a hard one to swallow for most. The programming is strong.

more decentralized governance to defend against inevitable central corruption.

They had a solution for this, and it involved violent righteous retribution and watering the tree of liberty with a trough of blood running from guillotines.

[–] 3 pts

That's what the forefathers intended. Only Tax paying, White, Land-Owning Men having the right to vote. Hell, even when granted freedom, they still only counted as a 3/5th vote.

[+] [deleted] 2 pts

Took me a while on Fascism but I'm coming around. Look at Singapore, look at Dubai. They have high levels of happiness and prosperity and low crime rates.

[–] 1 pt

Not only do they get to vote, they're the ones counting the votes as well

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

Democracy is fine as long as only people who aren't cowardly and retarded are the ones voting. Military, land owners, shit like that. No reason whatsoever Shaniqua Johnson should be assisting in governing our country when she can't even intelligently critique public policy.

But that's kinda the point. Water down the vote to the point it's useless and dysfunctional. Then all you have to do is placate the lowest common denominator. Free ice cream or whatever the fuck.

You're right, dilution of the vote is intentional. I think we are in the middle of the appeasement era, bread & circuses phase of the American story.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

You're 100% correct, and I'm sure if the founders could see the world today, they would agree as well. They believed in democracy amongst equals, not democracy for literally everyone. Democracy when you're part of the same group and generally on the same page in terms of abilities/contributions is fine, but otherwise it's garbage.

Also in the modern world, one of the main reasons we see so much support for our current system, is because people are hyper-materialistic consumers. Our democratic and capitalist societies are definitely good at producing cheap goods. But, people are just glutinously consuming all of these goods in order to try and fill the void in their lives left by the destruction of our nations, traditions, spirituality, families, etc, which are things that actually fulfill human beings on a core level.

Interesting take on consumerism. Possibly, technological progress can cheapen goods faster than the system can self-destruct, leading to a fully consumerist culture (or lack thereof). Reminds me of the distant future imagined by Iain M. Banks if you have ever read him... basically technology is so advanced that nothing costs anything, and people live centuries-long empty hedonist lives playing games and entertaining themselves, under the protection of godlike AI's. Ironically called the "Culture" series of novels.

Are you more anti-consumerist? I've been trying to simplify things myself.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

I'll check it out, sounds interesting. Reminds me of Brave New World as well. People would just burn out on drugs all day because there was nothing with actual real meaning left in society.

Yeah I'm anti-consumerist and anti-materialist. That's not to say I want to sell all my shit and live in the woods. I just think material and economic gain shouldn't be a societal priority over things like family, spirituality, and community involvement.

Also I think most people would benefit from some minimalism. When you reduce the amount of shit you have, you spend less and stress less.

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I'm just on the first Culture series book, it's a lot more goofy and fun than I thought it would be.

The consumerist depiction of the future that springs to my mind is the one in Cloud Atlas where consumption levels are mandated and humanity lives in a giant dome that scours the toxic wasteland of earth gobbling up the resources.