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... or ADHD, or food allergies, or anxiety disorders, or homosexuality, or any of other crap our children are plagued with.

After seven months on pregnancy forums, I’ve determined this is a big fat lie.

Women today are taking all kinds of shit during pregnancy. Heartburn meds, extra vaccinations, popping Tylenol like it’s candy, high dose progesterone supplements. Oh, and that doesn’t include all the drugs that are taken these days to just get pregnant, like the massive amounts of hormones you use during IVF or IUI treatments, or Clomid to increase ovulation. Drinking during pregnancy is becoming more acceptable (because one bitch wrote a book), and apparently smoking weed your entire pregnancy is no big deal either. Most psychiatric drugs are cleared for use during pregnancy as well.

This is on top of all the birth control, drinking, bad eating habits, obesity, and anxiety meds women are on for most of their lives.

But no, nothing in the modern world causes autism. You constantly freaking out about your mother in law’s innocent bullshit, or your high stress job, or your advanced maternal age, won’t affect your baby at all. Nothing causes problems!

... or ADHD, or food allergies, or anxiety disorders, or homosexuality, or any of other crap our children are plagued with. After seven months on pregnancy forums, I’ve determined this is a big fat lie. Women today are taking all kinds of shit during pregnancy. Heartburn meds, extra vaccinations, popping Tylenol like it’s candy, high dose progesterone supplements. Oh, and that doesn’t include all the drugs that are taken these days to just get pregnant, like the massive amounts of hormones you use during IVF or IUI treatments, or Clomid to increase ovulation. Drinking during pregnancy is becoming more acceptable (because one bitch wrote a book), and apparently smoking weed your entire pregnancy is no big deal either. Most psychiatric drugs are cleared for use during pregnancy as well. This is on top of all the birth control, drinking, bad eating habits, obesity, and anxiety meds women are on for most of their lives. But no, nothing in the modern world causes autism. You constantly freaking out about your mother in law’s innocent bullshit, or your high stress job, or your advanced maternal age, won’t affect your baby at all. Nothing causes problems!

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Pattern recognition, while being what makes us human, is not a sign of high intelligence. One can, for example, do very good at analysis section of iq tests which deals with pattern recognition, and get high score on the iq test. But that doesn’t translate to high high intelligence.

Civilisations can absolutely not be built without engineering btw, it’s the bedrock of civilisation. You are also conflating pattern recognition with reason. They are not the same, despite some overlap.

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It actually is a sign of high intelligence, though. The IQ test correlates strongly with the g-factor (which is true intelligence):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_factor_(psychometrics)

Engineering and logic both rely very heavily on pattern recognition. I think you're underestimating just how deeply essential pattern recognition is in our brains.

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In your first paragraph, you claim that intelligence isn't this and isn't that. But you provide no explanation for why you claim that, nor do you make any attempt to provide a better definition yourself. Without at least one of those two components, those claims are rather hollow.

Civilisations can absolutely not be built without engineering btw, it’s the bedrock of civilisation.

Agreed. I would add that you cannot devise or make use of engineering if you aren't able or willing to correctly recognize and apply patterns. I think I had already said much the same above?

You are also conflating pattern recognition with reason. They are not the same, despite some overlap.

Being unable to see patterns that should be apparent is called stupidity. Rejecting patterns in spite of seeing them is called delusion. Seeing patterns where there are none is called insanity. All of these are a departure from reason.

While they are not exactly the same, they were very closely related. It is impossible to reason, in a way that is meaningful and relevant to the world, without sound pattern recognition and application. In other words: Without intelligence, or with a corrupted intelligence (which we call madness).

Franky, I get the feeling you're just disagreeing and splitting hairs for the sake of it, rather than having anything meaningful to add.