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Collectivism gets a bad rep because it's almost exclusively associated with modern liberal "socialist" bullshit, but, I think the reason for that is because most of the so-called collectivists you hear talking about shit like socialism, are actually just worthless parasites. These people use moralistic language and pretend support for the community and collective to justify taking resources from the producers of society and giving it to them for their own individualistic and materialistic pursuits.

I'll use an anecdote to make what I'm talking about clearer, but I'm sure you all know of people like this. So I know this faggot, who was alright in school, but later on became a total worthless bum. Literally unemployed for years and years, no gf, no real life, sits around playing video games and shit all day every day. But, this fag considers himself a "socialist". He claims he's pro-community and pro-whatever moral-sounding bullshit is in with the modern left. He also thinks of himself as an intellectual (he's a midwit).

But what do his actions say? He doesn't pull his own weight, he doesn't contribute anything to his community, he doesn't believe in social standards, traditions, religion, he doesn't believe in the societal expectation to have kids and raise a family (which is pretty fucking essential to maintaining a collective....), and he's insanely materialistic, hedonistic, and ultimately, individualistic.

So yeah, these people are, at their core, the most selfish and individualistic people you'll ever meet in your lives. All that bullshit talk about socialism and community is purely a façade used to validate their worthless existence and try to convince or guilt other people into giving resources to them to enable their parasitic lifestyle choices.

Oh someone else will work and produce, someone else will pay taxes, someone else will uphold moral and cultural standards, someone else will have children....I just want to do whatever I want, live whatever degenerate lifestyle I feel like....but I want everyone else to pay for it!

This is an extremely bastardized form of collectivism. True collectivism involved actually belonging to and being beholden to a real collective, usually one that is fairly racially homogenous, and certainly culturally homogenous. There are expectations for dress, deportment, and general behaviour, and everyone is expected to pull their weight and contribute to society. As Hitler explained it, "our socialism isn't about the rich helping the poor, it's about Germans helping Germans. Everyone helps everyone".

So, it's fine if you still fundamentally disagree with collectivism, but, don't mistake the degenerate modern leftist "socialists" as collectivists. They're not. They're individualist, hedonist, materialistic parasites that use collectivist sounding terminology and moral axioms (that they make up mostly on the spot) to justify leeching off of the rest of us.

Collectivism gets a bad rep because it's almost exclusively associated with modern liberal "socialist" bullshit, but, I think the reason for that is because most of the so-called collectivists you hear talking about shit like socialism, are actually just worthless parasites. These people use moralistic language and pretend support for the community and collective to justify taking resources from the producers of society and giving it to them for their own individualistic and materialistic pursuits. I'll use an anecdote to make what I'm talking about clearer, but I'm sure you all know of people like this. So I know this faggot, who was alright in school, but later on became a total worthless bum. Literally unemployed for years and years, no gf, no real life, sits around playing video games and shit all day every day. But, this fag considers himself a "socialist". He claims he's pro-community and pro-whatever moral-sounding bullshit is in with the modern left. He also thinks of himself as an intellectual (he's a midwit). But what do his actions say? He doesn't pull his own weight, he doesn't contribute anything to his community, he doesn't believe in social standards, traditions, religion, he doesn't believe in the societal expectation to have kids and raise a family (which is pretty fucking essential to maintaining a collective....), and he's insanely materialistic, hedonistic, and ultimately, individualistic. So yeah, these people are, at their core, the most selfish and individualistic people you'll ever meet in your lives. All that bullshit talk about socialism and community is purely a façade used to validate their worthless existence and try to convince or guilt other people into giving resources to them to enable their parasitic lifestyle choices. Oh someone else will work and produce, someone else will pay taxes, someone else will uphold moral and cultural standards, someone else will have children....I just want to do whatever I want, live whatever degenerate lifestyle I feel like....but I want everyone else to pay for it! This is an extremely bastardized form of collectivism. True collectivism involved actually belonging to and being beholden to a real collective, usually one that is fairly racially homogenous, and certainly culturally homogenous. There are expectations for dress, deportment, and general behaviour, and everyone is expected to pull their weight and contribute to society. As Hitler explained it, "our socialism isn't about the rich helping the poor, it's about Germans helping Germans. Everyone helps everyone". So, it's fine if you still fundamentally disagree with collectivism, but, don't mistake the degenerate modern leftist "socialists" as collectivists. They're not. They're individualist, hedonist, materialistic parasites that use collectivist sounding terminology and moral axioms (that they make up mostly on the spot) to justify leeching off of the rest of us.

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When Canada brought in socialized medicine it was a great thing. There was nothing Canadians couldn't have done and they never had to think about a bill. There was no such thing as waiting for anything.

Starting in the 1980's they had to remove things from the list of taxpayer funded list. Cutting and trimming consumer end access had become the way to deal with provincial health budgets. With all the cutting, about 70% of provincial budgets goes to healthcare today.

Not a soul will look at who the actual parasites really are. $3 million dollars for a piece of equipment from globalcorp that is little more than a circuit board in plastic housing with a computer screen attached. Buying that is seen as only a positive. Trying to get the price down is not of any importance whatsoever.

Tens of thousands of therapy type jobs of bullshit buried into the general budget. Grants handed out to run programs that don't do fuck all. Jobs in hospitals that are little more than girls reassuring girls and giving them a hand to hold. Why not? it's freeeeeeee.

The homeless schizophrenics, bipolars and drug addicts are one of the biggest expenses. They gobble it up daily like a competition. The staff see their job as referring them all to a never ending circuit of tax funded employees running programs to "help" them. Help them what is never clearly defined. The majority of those employees and health care budget grant recipients are women. They wouldn't be liberated without the hard work of tax payers whom they are 100% dependent on for their survival and liberation.

Canada's free healthcare depends on the US to treat it's citizens when it can't cope with the lack of rationed, socialist healthcare available for Canadians. If the US ever gets "universal" healthcare Canadians will die of wait lists in greater numbers.

People expect their governments to spend and not save, because they spend and don't save.

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It is not free health care that is the issue. It is the reality that ALL Socialism attracts corruptions like flies on Shit. Graft and Pay to Play run Social/Industrial welfare. I call this Marxist Capitalism. Another fact is that the second oldest form of Capitalism is Human Trafficking, not drugs. The oldest has always been extortion, blackmail and bribery. Usually starts in the womb if ones mother is a self centered bitch. Which is why welfare is modern mans latest success in voluntary enslavement. Trillion dollar Industry truth be told. Per month if you see it as Global Capitalism.