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I agree that Ukranians/Poles/Russians are good coders.

If you're talented though I think there is still a future in the first world for programmers. All the big tech does their real work in rich countries with smart populations - US/Japan/Korea/etc. The coders I knew in college earned the first year out of school in the ranges of $60-120k.

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Anyway, I just think that if I am worried about being my country being undercut by cheap white collar labor elsewhere, then burgers and britbongs must really be fucked.

I still hire local, but only because I am a nationalist.

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At least we know there's never a danger of women taking the coding jobs.

Reading your other comments I now understand you were speaking of coder as the job title, and I was thinking of coding in a general educational sense - meaning jobs from software engineering, security, etc. So you're probably right that grunt coders are in danger of having their jobs outsourced.

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If it can be done remotely, it can be done in Ukraine or Belarus.