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Concerning Deplatforming:

This process, of a website being deplatformed, just becomes a recursive thing that constantly moves the goalposts outlined for you to ensure your freedom of speech.

Let's say you start a Facebook group, and you also have an official account on Twitter for that Facebook group.

So someone or some group of people with an agenda complains enough to get you kicked off Twitter and/or Facebook.

"Take your hate elsewhere! Go make your own social media site! " Good idea! So you do that, rent space and bandwidth from a hosting provider, but still they don't like what you're saying, so you get kicked off your rented host provider.

"Just make your own host." This costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, and yet somehow you're able to pull this off, but in order to run the site, you ask your users to donate to keep the site up and running. But people still decide they don't like that you now exist on your own host, and that you allow thoughts and ideas that they don't think should be allowed. They call sites like this, Extreme Freedom of Speech - which in the old day we just called Freedom of Speech - so they push your Payment Processor, like PayPal, and get you kicked off your payment processor, or your bank, even. So now you can't get money to keep your site and investment running.

You can see where this is going, right?

"Just make your own payment processor."

And it goes on from there.

"Buy an Island, declare it a sovereign nation, lay your own cables, bigot; just build your own power plant; just mine your own coal."

Private companies can do what they want, and today we have a whole chain of private companies that comprise an infrastructure required to support the existence of something - the internet as a whole, and then all the individual sites and users.

If "they" don't like you or what you're saying, and want to shut you down, they just keep progressively moving up the chain of infrastructure and cutting you off at each layer withing the whole of what is the Internet - the hosted internet.

This is the face of censorship in the modern age.

And now, you're at Poal. And it's 100% vulnerable to what I've outlined above. Just.Like.Voat.

So put in your effort and time into Poal. But know, tomorrow, it can be gone, because THAT is the reality of Hosted internet.

EDIT:

Let me make it clear. I'm not looking for ANYONE to give up. That's not the point of the post. But effort could be placed into decentralized platforms, making those better, where we won't have someone decide to shut down, or be taken down, and we, the end-users, have ZERO control over that decision.

Decentralized is the future.

I feel like I'm trying to convince a people who are completely reliant on public transit to buy a fucking car.

Concerning Deplatforming: This process, of a website being deplatformed, just becomes a recursive thing that constantly moves the goalposts outlined for you to ensure your freedom of speech. Let's say you start a Facebook group, and you also have an official account on Twitter for that Facebook group. So someone or some group of people with an agenda complains enough to get you kicked off Twitter and/or Facebook. "Take your hate elsewhere! Go make your own social media site! " Good idea! So you do that, rent space and bandwidth from a hosting provider, but still they don't like what you're saying, so you get kicked off your rented host provider. "Just make your own host." This costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, and yet somehow you're able to pull this off, but in order to run the site, you ask your users to donate to keep the site up and running. But people still decide they don't like that you now exist on your own host, and that you allow thoughts and ideas that they don't think should be allowed. They call sites like this, Extreme Freedom of Speech - which in the old day we just called Freedom of Speech - so they push your Payment Processor, like PayPal, and get you kicked off your payment processor, or your bank, even. So now you can't get money to keep your site and investment running. You can see where this is going, right? "Just make your own payment processor." And it goes on from there. "Buy an Island, declare it a sovereign nation, lay your own cables, bigot; just build your own power plant; just mine your own coal." Private companies can do what they want, and today we have a whole chain of private companies that comprise an infrastructure required to support the existence of something - the internet as a whole, and then all the individual sites and users. If "they" don't like you or what you're saying, and want to shut you down, they just keep progressively moving up the chain of infrastructure and cutting you off at each layer withing the whole of what is the Internet - the hosted internet. This is the face of censorship in the modern age. And now, you're at Poal. And it's 100% vulnerable to what I've outlined above. Just.Like.Voat. So put in your effort and time into Poal. But know, tomorrow, it can be gone, because THAT is the reality of Hosted internet. EDIT: Let me make it clear. I'm not looking for ANYONE to give up. That's not the point of the post. But effort could be placed into decentralized platforms, making those better, where we won't have someone decide to shut down, or be taken down, and we, the end-users, have ZERO control over that decision. Decentralized is the future. I feel like I'm trying to convince a people who are completely reliant on public transit to buy a fucking car.

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[–] • 9 pts

If you really want me to respond again like I did in the comments which I am positive you could link to if you wanted. All you have to do is stop being all gay and actually post my refutes to your arguments.

Let me copy pasta for you.

I was really proud of my Alpha badge. I have 3 backup hosts already I've been deplatformed already once. Trust me I got this.

I know what can happen I watched it happen to other places I would be stupid not to learn from that.

Relying on the charity of others is the only way I see something like this working not one place has tried it long term before that I know of. Voat didn't take donations for a long time.

Me personally even if I get depressed or something like that I have a partner that will step in and pick up the slack and vice versa.

Voat was my home for a long time, I ran traditionalmen and traditionalhusbands. I cared about it a lot it got me and my wife redpilled then when I saw it start to fail I said someone needs to stand up so I did. Then a fuck ton of people stood up behind me.

I believe those people care and I believe none of us are going to quit. If we need more help we will get it. If we need more money we will ask. If we need someone to just talk us through a hard day we will ask. We are human beings but we believe in free speech.

We are not quitting everyone who has been here a while knows I'm not perfect but they know damn well I'm not ever quitting. Its just not in me.

[–] • 3 pts

I have a partner that will step in and pick up the slack

You must have really soft lips.

[–] • 1 pt

Paranoia time.

Ya sure this isn't some elaborate psyop to get enough info from you by playing on your ego so they can get enough info to subvert poal?

[–] • 2 pts

Dude I said don't run me over with a bus. I can say for sure that isn't nice.

[–] • 1 pt

Oh well. Whatever happens happens. I trust you got your shit together.

God bless.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Promises, Promises.

[–] • 4 pts (edited )

3 years of my life thousands of dollars of my own money spent.

What more do you want?

Edit: I know what you want, you want me suck your dick and I'm sorry dude I'm just not into you. Really I apologize but I'm just not into dudes. You might try

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

So you're invulnerable to deplatforming? No, you said as much. You have three backups, then what? Get three more? So much effort for something that YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.

That, Sir, is the point.

[–] • 0 pt

Come on he's right! Let's go. Give him poal credentials and let's go to Disney world.

[–] • 1 pt

LOL