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My answer to the general question is yes. Go into a trade. But I have a son-in-law who recently quit an apprenticeship because they were inflexible.

They wouldn't give him time off for any matters dealing with his first child. He had to attend classes or be penalized.

He is now making more, has better benefits and more schedule flexibility. Unions/guilds are choking themselves out of anything other than big crime style construction jobs.

My answer to the general question is yes. Go into a trade. But I have a son-in-law who recently quit an apprenticeship because they were inflexible. They wouldn't give him time off for any matters dealing with his first child. He had to attend classes or be penalized. He is now making more, has better benefits and more schedule flexibility. Unions/guilds are choking themselves out of anything other than big crime style construction jobs.

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[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

It sounds like his local trade union is run by assholes. He can take his knowledge and strike out on his own, and probably do better than being in a shitty union, especially if he takes full advantage of the tax breaks.

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I hear you. Initially it seemed like a good deal. The union gave him better benefits than he was offered coming in, and they laid out a great career. But in hindsight it seems like a scam.

Still, you need the credentials to get county certificates, etc.

I'm mostly upset because I supported him when his own parents were pissed he quit school to join a trade. (To be honest, my daughter doesn't need her degree to do what she does, yet I paid for it.)

I've always hated unions for capiralist reasons. Now I hare them for worker reasons.