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I understand the importance of law and order but when the cops are upholding clearly unconstitutional “mandates”, we end up in a situation where we either lose everything to the JWO, or we choose to see the cops for what they are, enemies of the people, until they see us as more important than their government paycheck and finally say “hey wait, we are on your side” .

I understand the importance of law and order but when the cops are upholding clearly unconstitutional “mandates”, we end up in a situation where we either lose everything to the JWO, or we choose to see the cops for what they are, enemies of the people, until they see us as more important than their government paycheck and finally say “hey wait, we are on your side” .

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Churches should be leading the way:

>Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Cops are the biggest threat to our few remaining rights, they're the state's enforcers not our allies

[–] • 3 pts

Pink Floyd stylized them as dogs. Dogs is right. They will protect whoever holds the leash.

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They're quitting in every progressive shithole in large numbers. They would be on our side because it's their side. The need to spread hate-the-police by the leftist pretenders is very high right now because they're afraid, and they should be.

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That's why they just replace the white cops who quit with jewish servant shit skins

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Correct, police work for big corporations who ultimately pay their salaries. What we fail to understand is we don't have a government for the people. We allowed entities like corporations to flourish and get very powerful. "The state" is a collection of large corporations with aligned interests. Those interests go against our interests. Everyday we don't tear them down, they get more powerful.

We talk about the constitution as if it will protect us. It cannot. It must be enforced. Only we are expected to play by its rules. The kleptocracy has no such mandate. In fact, they flaunt the rules right in our face. We are un governed. There is noone representing us, only strawmen claiming to represent us.

The police are our enemy because they belong to the kleptocracy. The kleptocracy is our enemy because we are their enemy. Snap out of the illusion there is a savior right around the corner. He is not there.

  1. Recognize we are alone.
  2. Treat the state as an enemy.
  3. Infiltrate local government and replace hostile actors.
  4. Ignore authority's demands to comply. We are not their subjects.

People still believe we need a government. Are you convinced yet that governments need us?

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

There is a saying that if it takes money from the state, it is the state.

Big corporations and the state in the US are identical, I'll go even further, basically all of the wealthy people are rich due to state power and the exploitation of American workers.

When parasites run every company and are in every position of power, it's a capitalist revolution and not a socialist one to execute every parasite, whether they're politicians or CEOs all must go to restore capitalism

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But not just churches.....you have a right to peaceably assemble, it isn’t just about practicing religion. This applies to you working, going to a party, leaving your house whenever you want, etc.....it’s on us, it’s on small business owners, it’s on churches to stand up against this shit.

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But they won't because that goes against human nature, there is no middle ground, either people are willing to fight and die for their values or they are not, peaceful protest doesn't work and these businesses know that, the government really wants people to think peaceful protests work though, that's why they latch onto figures like Ghandi and the nigger kang so hard, they want you to your vote actually matters and that you have any real power when you don't.

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I feel this is very much true..

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Indians die every day because of that love Ghandi shit. They've been fed it stronger than anyone, and need to puke it back up the heads of the mouthpieces pushing it.

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You only have rights you have earned. We ran out of credits years ago. Since then our bucket of rights has been siphoned off. The gauge is on empty. We need to assert our rights. There is only one way left to do this. Call it war or civil disobedience but the kleptocracy isn't going to ever give our rights back willingly. It makes no difference there is a piece of paper with our rights written on it. The kleptocracy doesn't care.

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You're right. I just think the Churches should be out front instead of cowering behind their 501c3s

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That's a very nice way to say someone else should lead. All the churches near me post BLM posters and rainbow flags. Not the kind of leadership I respect, nor should anyone else. Have you read what Mr. Francis, who calls himself Pope is espousing? Not the kind of leader who has our interests at heart.

I'd reevaluate your position.

[–] • 1 pt

My reaction is correct. Their behavior is wrong.

[–] • 2 pts

I am seeing more and more incidents of people on the right saying fuck back the blue, and incidents like the one in Oregon is only making that sentiment stronger. I mean, they bear maced the cops. I've never seen the so called "far-right" do something like that before. If the Police continue to enforce these unconstitutional lockdown orders, things are going to get crazy next year.

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What they are enforcing now is neither law nor order.

It's called ruling under color of law.

Which is to say they use law as pretense to justify doing whatever the hell they want.

And the police enforce it mostly out of habit because muh job.

The old saying "convincing someone of something is near impossible when their job depends on them being willfully oblivious", is not a joke. It's the literal truth.

They are always going to be a threat to any organization, any political movement, any group, always, even when the individual officers who join believe in the cause, because, heres why:

The presence of officers and officials of the state in any organization 1. acts as an organizing force, 2. a force multiplier, 3. and MOST important of all, is politically legitimizing, which means the groups existence now threatens the legitimacy of the state, however small. Reports and leaks from alphabet soup agencies say they target any group or even individuals regardless of size, basing their targeting criteria solely on the potential of a group or organization to grow. And it makes sense if you think about it. The one thing which is explicitly a felony for them to do, the one thing they ardently deny, engaging in political suppression, is one the core activities of these agencies. And really there should be a whole campaign against them just for this, uniting leftwingers and rightwingers on this very grievance.

But more specifically, having agents and officers of the state in your organization doesn't just make you a target of the state, but makes them targets of the state in particular. These are the guys with a lot to lose, a cushy job, pensions, the respect of their position (whatever is left), the authorities they are afforded. These are the guys who are expected to be most politically neutral, so it would be easy to destroy their careers and reputations if they refused to cooperate in infiltrating or destroying a political organization they are a part of.

And thats why you can't have them in your movement. If any officers support a cause, or political organization, the best they can do really is to affiliate with it, and provide whatever input, training, or intelligence they can, from the position they are already in, via a 'citizens reporting/whistleblower' type system.

It is why the police element of, for example, the oathkeepers, will inevitably be their downfall, likewise the three percenters.

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I already said this on voat, the whole problem with the force is no matter what they do (or don't) they can always come back to praise from the right, if they had no support channels they might start thinking for themselves

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That's too broad a viewpoint, cops in deep blue cities behave differently than the cops in red areas. If the cops in deep blue cities are fucking up the leftists who live there because of masks then that's on them. They are getting the tyranny they chose when they elected their local politicians. In the other parts of the country the cops aren't being so tyrannical about it.

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I don't think cops behave any differently anywhere, they all just Institute whatever tyranny is asked of them

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Pretty evident that’s exactly how they behave considering how many states showed compliant cops when the red flag laws were passed in those states. They do what they’re told, their checks and pension depend on it.

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The point was that they do what their bosses tell them, they're not autonomous agents of law enforcement.

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The big thing is, the word tyranny has been watered down. People don't really recognize tyranny when they see it any more. You hear the word and it sounds like nothing, like hyperbole, like a guy being dragged off a flight because hes screaming about gremlins on the wing of the plane. But tyranny is real.

I think it is one of those words thats become a non-word: an abstraction, losing its concreteness by the remoteness of its meaning from everyday life, or more likely, losing its meaning to normalcy bias.

A slave does not comprehend tyranny, because a slave has never known freedom.

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The problem with the reactionary right, to the far left, is that the right has become total statists. People need to find the right blend between conservatism and libertarianism. The government is not your friend.

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The cops are not the problem and you know it.

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Without law and order, you don’t have a civilized country, you end up a third world shithole of chaos, corruption and destruction.

You dumb niggers.

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Except that this isn't law or order, you dumb nigger.

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Go live in South Africa, Liberia or Afghanistan, then talk to me. I’ve lived for years in a third world shithole when I was younger. You know nothing nigger faggot.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt (edited )

Average people from those places have not seen what I've seen or done what I have done.

Still not law and order. Not an argument but failed argument from authority.

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What will it take for us to say, "fuck these masks?"

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No one is going to start a war over the masks, people in masse will probably only start fighting back when things are so bad that niggers/shitskins (all blacks are niggers and should be exterminated) are raping our kids and women and the government is letting them do it... hopefully it's not too late by then but it probably will be...

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Citizen, you and I are of a like mind.

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Reading the comments, I’m thankful I live in a super-deep red county with more cattle than people. Law enforcement in these parts would never dare “enforce” bandana laws. Cowboy up.

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I feel you are correct.

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