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Call me a nigger faggot for coming on a random forum to rant. Either read or not, idc, can't really discuss it anywhere else and I figured at least a couple here would get what I'm talking about.

Was in a debate with some retards about wahmen in the military, and why it's overall a pretty shitty idea (for obvious reasons). I eventually made some kind of comment like "Plus the ones that are in all get pregnant before deployment." and this happened...

Person: Citation? Myself: Ask any soldier who has had to serve with women. Person: That's not a citation, I want a citation to a study that proves this. Myself: You don't need a study to prove the obvious, I'm not going to disbelieve the existence of gravity because there isn't a study saying that when you throw a ball up, it's going to come down, it's observed by billions of people. You won't find a study stating the obvious because it's a waste of time (of course, for a moment I forgot I was living in clown world). but every military member I know, both online and in person, says this happens, even women.

Then said person proceeds to find some retarded "study" explaining the obvious about gravity, and then proceeds to write a mini-essay about how I am not intellectual or some shit and I'm thinking "these sounds like fucking legalese" that's when I see it... "berg" in the name. Admittedly they could of been of German, but come on, "berg", argues in legalese, and holds the opinion of "intellectuals" above those who are actually partaking in the subject matter? Of course to keep my sanity I essentially had to say "Whatever, I prefer the words of people who have experience in the subject over some intellectual with no ties or experience at all, brainstorming about it. If it makes you sleep better at night I concede.".Even if I did waste my time finding a study they demanded, they would of just given me "not a credible source" or something anyway. So yes, I essentially lost because of some weaselese-speak, despite the fact common sense should of made it not even be a debate in the first place. I would not be surprised if a tribe member demanded the citation of an "intellectual" if I made the statement "If you don't breath, you will die." And yes I am aware 99% of "intellectuals" are fellow tribesman.

Does anyone else loathe this behavior?

Call me a nigger faggot for coming on a random forum to rant. Either read or not, idc, can't really discuss it anywhere else and I figured at least a couple here would get what I'm talking about. Was in a debate with some retards about wahmen in the military, and why it's overall a pretty shitty idea (for obvious reasons). I eventually made some kind of comment like "Plus the ones that are in all get pregnant before deployment." and this happened... Person: Citation? Myself: Ask any soldier who has had to serve with women. Person: That's not a citation, I want a citation to a study that proves this. Myself: You don't need a study to prove the obvious, I'm not going to disbelieve the existence of gravity because there isn't a study saying that when you throw a ball up, it's going to come down, it's observed by billions of people. You won't find a study stating the obvious because it's a waste of time (of course, for a moment I forgot I was living in clown world). but every military member I know, both online and in person, says this happens, even women. Then said person proceeds to find some retarded "study" explaining the obvious about gravity, and then proceeds to write a mini-essay about how I am not intellectual or some shit and I'm thinking "these sounds like fucking legalese" that's when I see it... "berg" in the name. Admittedly they could of been of German, but come on, "berg", argues in legalese, and holds the opinion of "intellectuals" above those who are actually partaking in the subject matter? Of course to keep my sanity I essentially had to say "Whatever, I prefer the words of people who have experience in the subject over some intellectual with no ties or experience at all, brainstorming about it. If it makes you sleep better at night I concede.".Even if I did waste my time finding a study they demanded, they would of just given me "not a credible source" or something anyway. So yes, I essentially lost because of some weaselese-speak, despite the fact common sense should of made it not even be a debate in the first place. I would not be surprised if a tribe member demanded the citation of an "intellectual" if I made the statement "If you don't breath, you will die." And yes I am aware 99% of "intellectuals" are fellow tribesman. Does anyone else loathe this behavior?

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There is a good you might want to read. Also, there is this quote:

The great masses could be saved, if only with the gravest sacrifice in time and patience.

But a Jew could never be parted from his opinions.

At that time I was still childish enough to try to make the madness of their doctrine clear to them; in my little circle I talked my tongue sore and my throat hoarse, thinking I would inevitably succeed in convincing them how ruinous their Marxist madness was; but what I accomplished was often the opposite. It seemed as though their increased understanding of the destructive effects of Social Democratic theories and their results only >reinforced their determination.

The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (1924)

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An interesting read, though, I have my criticisms with a few aspects Certainly one I will be saving to look at/use in the future.

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OK, niggerfaggot.

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Agree and amplify.

Yes, in fact I think all women should be enlisted in Israel. Get those big khazar milkers on the front line so they can drench the naughty Palestinians in kosher breast milk. Or something just as ridiculous.

The key is to ignore, mock and never take them seriously. Focus on talking with people who will listen to reason, once they stop being reasonable, switch tactics.

Works great when dealing with women too.

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It's a common tactic used by such individuals, asking for "citations" and "sources". You are wasting your time and energy with them and that's the reason they ask for citations in the first place. Even if you cite scientific studies and books, they will find some petty excuse to declare that you are wrong.

Telling them to go fuck themselves can be a better approach.

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The great masses could be saved, if only with the gravest sacrifice in time and patience.

But a Jew could never be parted from his opinions.

At that time I was still childish enough to try to make the madness of their doctrine clear to them; in my little circle I talked my tongue sore and my throat hoarse, thinking I would inevitably succeed in convincing them how ruinous their Marxist madness was; but what I accomplished was often the opposite. It seemed as though their increased understanding of the destructive effects of Social Democratic theories and their results only reinforced their determination.

The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying

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I never pondered the "get pregnant before deployment" thing, but yes, if the idea of imminent real war zone deployment makes you fear for your life (and you obviously can have objective reasons to actually start fearing for your life eventually in that context), then yeah then it's a matter of survival in your head, and yeah it turns into a "whatever it takes" to sort that out situation, and yeah... If getting pregnant is an option you'll go for that one. It's that or I broke my leg falling in the stairs or whatever... Your call. What would you pick? The safest and most straight forward path to "victory", which in the case of a woman is the get pregnant card, easy, you don't even have to give birth I guess ultimately, you passed the pregnant test

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I don't see what's totally out of the realm of the possible here, no need for studies to prove anything, life is a matter of priority

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muh conenus

Consensus proves nothing. How many people believed in the concept of gravity before the idea was largely promulgated?
That's a poor argument.