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Like wtf happened? Lot's of Trumptards, and I don't mean the ones here that, I'm talking "Dislike Trump = Evil". Some guy said fascism was a "liberal" and "leftist" ideology, I clearly pointed out it wasn't (I mean, anti-liberalism is one of it's ideals...), I got down voted in to oblivion with multiple people telling me it was "leftist", which of course means all of them are still unironically buying the right/left false-dichotomy. A bunch of "Q trust the plan' and also Israel supporters because their glorious leader Trump supports it. Tons of civ-nats (which is fine, but it's paraded almost as mush as the MSM and our politicians parading "muh democracy") They use every racial slur in the book, which is fine, but the problem is they do it when it's not needed, which kind of kills the impact of it (for example I'll use "black" when I say "blacks commit 50% of crimes" or something, then use "nigger" when they are chimping out or such, and I see similar here. Everybody seems to support whatever their "side" does (i.e. republicans do it, and not the evil democrats, therefor it must be good)/ I guess it's another case of a place getting so big and mainstream, normies take it over.

Like wtf happened? Lot's of Trumptards, and I don't mean the ones here that, I'm talking "Dislike Trump = Evil". Some guy said fascism was a "liberal" and "leftist" ideology, I clearly pointed out it wasn't (I mean, anti-liberalism is one of it's ideals...), I got down voted in to oblivion with multiple people telling me it was "leftist", which of course means all of them are still unironically buying the right/left false-dichotomy. A bunch of "Q trust the plan' and also Israel supporters because their glorious leader Trump supports it. Tons of civ-nats (which is fine, but it's paraded almost as mush as the MSM and our politicians parading "muh democracy") They use every racial slur in the book, which is fine, but the problem is they do it when it's not needed, which kind of kills the impact of it (for example I'll use "black" when I say "blacks commit 50% of crimes" or something, then use "nigger" when they are chimping out or such, and I see similar here. Everybody seems to support whatever their "side" does (i.e. republicans do it, and not the evil democrats, therefor it must be good)/ I guess it's another case of a place getting so big and mainstream, normies take it over.

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Again, you are always assuming that there is some kind of hierarchy. There doesn't need to be. If you only trade with your neighbours, there is no hierarchy. If you have separate countries at peace, there is no hierarchy. Even today, countries have no hierarchy. There is no order that specifies one country is better or greater than the other, and must follow its rules or pay tribute (taxes).

... where everyone follows the leadership willingly out of genuine trust, and only donates to the leadership willingly, and no NAP violations are imposed upon anyone.

This is fantasy. No man will willingly be anyone else's slave. Antistatism is naught but a jewish trick, and you should a feel as a fool for believing in antistatism. And why would a group that aims to dismantle the state, advocate for submission to some other power?

Antistatism. Now that that rings a bell. ANTI-. As I recall, they turned out to just be authoritarian communists.

Pray tell, where did YOU learn about anti-statism?

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assuming that there is some kind of hierarchy. There doesn't need to be.

I never said there needs to be hierarchy, I only implied that there can be.

No man will willingly be anyone else's slave.

Of course, it's not slavery, by definition, if a man serves willingly. If you willingly work for an organized company, you're willingly part of a hierarchy. If you join a club that collects dues from its members, you pay the dues voluntarily, because you joined and remain in the club voluntarily.

where did YOU learn about anti-statism?

I determined by myself that the removal of the State is the solution to all of society's problems. I discovered the word 'antistatism' through it's etymology. I checked, and the word was already present in dictionaries, but I had never seen it used anywhere before I came up with it. I am the only person I know of who advocates for antistatism by using the word 'antistatism'. I later discovered that Hoppe advocates for an ideology that is more or less the same as my own.

If you would like to learn more about antistatism, you can check out the sub I made to promote it: