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i'm beginning to suspect were talking less about a scientology sized organization and more like a democrat party sized organization. or even a Christianity-sized organization.

i'm beginning to suspect were talking less about a scientology sized organization and more like a democrat party sized organization. or even a Christianity-sized organization.

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I don't find you insufferable. I find your frankness refreshing. you are unselfish with what you've learned and I am grateful for it. your username is slightly presumptuous but it could be that you are merely stating a fact. or it could be that you are using "genius" in its earlier form. I know very little. but I do know that there are highly intelligent people who use their gifts to deceive. but I've found those types rarely speak of logos.

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I don't find you insufferable

Thank you for that. :)

your username is slightly presumptuous

Goy and Genuis. A name chosen to live up to. I hope to take control of the word Goy with virtue and place it high, above those that would call me merely cattle. Words are like spells and in the same way so are names. The name is to represent a mission and moral alignment, or an aspiration. I am the Goy who is not cattle.

I've found those types rarely speak of logos.

About Logos. Without some experience, one can not see it but Logos is that which is constitutionally true at all levels and is the product of, that which has created, and the being of Objective Reality. A consciousness? Perhaps. A universal law? Most definitely.

Once person gets to that, then it's easier to find truth. Local truth is not that which is moral, but in a way a form of corruption and affirmation. I did not understand what Jesus and God is until this realization. Now the sin everywhere makes sense and the Mark of the Beast is the animal nature within us that is not in harmony with our objective abilities. Hence, when we are not aligned with Logos we miss the true mark and emulate behavior of an animal, not a man in the image of one that seeks objective reality.

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I believe the situation is far simpler than people make it. I believe God IS logos. I believe self determination is a value that God cherishes. because if you love something, you have to let it go. it means everything if it comes back. I believe Gods hands off approach is a side effect of gods valuing of self determination. if he stepped in and righted all the wrongs, then all his time would be spent getting people out of the pickles they put themselves in. nobody would learn anything. we'd be pets. I don't believe God sees us as pets, but children he loves to watch grow and become better. I believe he periodically tries to help us out by giving us examples and nudges in the right direction. but with rebellious children he just stands back. I've learned myself that when loved ones are committed to self destruction, there is nothing that can be done or said to dissuade them. you can try and inform them, but any attempts at assistance will be taken advantage of or thrown back in your face. its best to just stand back and hope they come to their senses. I believe this is Gods approach too.

God IS logos

LITERALLY!! Notice how when we both seek this we come to an understanding and neither of us loses in "the game." There is no power transfer but there is a gain for both of us. Logos brings abundance.

if he stepped in and righted all the wrongs

There would be no empowerment. The way is to seek truth and learn. This is the antidote to the subversion. Giving it for free steals the victory from us and enslaves us. This is not the way and does not set you free. Only the truth sets you free.

you can try and inform them, but any attempts at assistance will be taken advantage of or thrown back in your face.

Very few will have their names written in "the book" of those "saved." Most bear the mark of the beast. Revelation is about seeing this, that we are mere animals when not with Logos. We are either controlled dominantly by animal instincts, or lack emotion and are dominated by the mind only. The truth is we are both, so we can experience feedback.