Well, when I said that, I didn't exactly mean for it to solely be directed at you. Music = Magick >Their symbol is an upside down Crowely seven pointed star https://jssocial.pw/ppkey/fget/pic8/upload/qXys7E59wf.jpeg >they understand the magic and are inverting for good because they are a "tool" for the message of truth... especially the dark truth. Rosetta Stoned Read the lyrics https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/tool/rosettastoned.html Maynard just *tells us*. >Their most recent album, "Fear Inoculum" is exactly what it says... a series of spells designed to make people immune to fear and it is directed directly at the fear mongerers Reread the first line in this comment. Fear is the Mind-Killer. Fear is also a *choice*. >So, while they embrace the magic... they see it as a Tool and have always been against the grain in the metal/grunge/alternate world. This is probably the most impressive from web. Not too many are ready to discover the "magick" we're aware of (what little of it we are, anyway) isn't necessarily bad. > "Fuck your tatttoos" "Fuck all you junkies and fuck your short memories." Like a gun, "magic" is a tool. It can be used for good or bad. "I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my friend." >And by magic, I mainly mean organizational and Jungian psychology, in this particular case. Forty Six & 2 Again, the first line in this comment should be noted. ----------- Alright, as for what you wrote, I think you're doing a lot of analysis that wasn't needed. The familiarity with what you're calling "social-engineering" simply labels web's surprising level of insight. The guy's pretty neat all around. >Are you talking about Web's ability to take various elements of something, through objective observation, and weave them in to a coherent narrative? His ability to even recognize those pieces, let alone where to put them? Yeah, that was impressive. I don't see this in many places. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this like I'm super smart and I could've done better. In fact, it's quite the opposite. He spoke to things I couldn't, and explained them in ways I always have trouble accomplishing. >the nod to Jungian pyschology Well, that was interesting to read. I'd been wanting to get in to it for a while, only to discover it's literally what I'd been learning already essentially on my own. That was pretty cool. Like I've said before, I may not know its name, but I damn well know the play when I see it. The multi-tool types are always super interesting to me. A lot could be learned in web's (and maynard's) words. When I said you really need to reread what he said, I didn't mean to suggest you hadn't contributed much on the subject; instead, my not noticing was just an example of my not having seen much of what you've done. I've been meaning to do something tonight, so I won't begin or think much of it yet, but make a sub or something about analyzing Tool or escoterism and I'll stop by and explain all of the popular songs to you in the ways they've been explained to me. Trust me, you're going to want to hear this. It's interesting as fuck, even if there's nothing to it. Frankly, what's so intriguing to me is more that the frame of reference all fits way too well in to the perspective I've been conjuring for the past couple of years. Although, the reason could easily be more due to the messenger's way of explaining things. Either way I'm rambling now and I need to sort of relax so I'll get to that some time tomorrow for you. For now, a short taste: **YOU ARE NOT YOUR BODY** You are instead divine. >Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges *in to gold*. lead dael deal Maynard made *the deal*.