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[–] 10 pts

"I have no experience shooting guns, give me the biggest one you have to try"

[–] 15 pts (edited )

This is so far beyond irresponsible, this soy dude should fucking sue. I normally hate the idea of being litigious, but if this guy came in there not knowing shit, then he obviously came there to LEARN. Yeah, he's got soy-hands and weak wrists, sure, fine- but he wants to overcome that and he's willing to put in the time and effort to do so.

I'm not a firearms instructor. I've been instructed by many, from the military and civilian sectors. I want to show them this footage (I'm sure most of them have probably seen it by now) and ask them what they think happened, because I suspect you're right- I suspect this kid's never fired ANY weapon before. He has all the typical "first-timer" nervous cues, you can see his shoulders really straining, he just looks completely uncomfortable.

This was a failure on the part of whoever allowed him to fire that weapon in there. Is he a bit of a fool for not doing some research and learning that "Wow, a lot of experienced firearms owners say the same thing: start with a smaller pistol to develop good fundamental technique, maybe I won't use the Dirty Harry gun for my first time"? Yes, he is. But he's not the professional in this equation. This shit is so infuriating to me because it's not just the guy and the instructor who could've been killed by this- could've been anyone on the range at the time.

Edit: And if the guy absolutely MUST fire that hand cannon, then they should've only had one chamber loaded at a time until they were sure the kid could control the weapon.

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The customer is always right!

Perhaps the grown adult demanded to fire that specific weapon.

[–] 5 pts

In which case, the instructor only loads one round at a time. This would completely prevent this incident as even a possibility. Then you could gauge how well the "grown adult" is able to handle the weapon, and move from there. It would've been clear after the first shot that "Nope, only baby guns for this guy for a while".

Poor fucker that owns that range has a lot of paperwork to do now, even though there were no injuries or deaths, this is what OSHA would probably deem a "SIF" incident. Fucking nanny-state.

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Why so much sympathy for the retard with the gun? If you have no idea what the recoil is, you always grip it like it's going to kick like a mule. It's better to have shit accuracy from anticipating recoil your first time than drop it. It's the same reason you exercise caution the first time you hit the gas on an unfamiliar sports car and act as if it's going to lurch forward and fishtail. Because if you're overly cautious you look a little silly. If you're undercautious you can kill someone.

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Why so much sympathy for the retard with the gun?

This is an assumption, but I think it's a reasonable assumption: I have sympathy for the guy trying to train because I believe he is under the supervision of either an instructor or a more experienced friend. This guy knows what recoil is, but he obviously wasn't expecting it to be as powerful as it was.

Assuming he is unsupervised by an instructor/experienced friend, then yeah he's just a jackass. I am operating on a very safe assumption here, as someone is filming him and he is at an indoor range. There are professionals supposedly observing the range at all times. If that was my job, and I saw this kid aiming like this, I'd be very concerned. I might step in and suggest single shots until I was sure he wasn't going to accidentally fucking shoot me or someone else. This is pretty simple, what do you not understand?

It's just like handing a very young boy an axe, before he's ready to handle it and chop firewood. He's going to chop himself, and it's an obvious disaster waiting to happen- there should be a responsible individual (the father in this scenario) to prevent this.

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And don't correct my shooting stance or lock my elbows even though my arms are like toothpicks.

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Right? Everything was wrong.

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What was it, a S&W .44 or a .50?

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I was shooting my father's .44mag, unassisted, at 6 or 7.

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Something seems off with this. Why would you give a hand cannon to a person who never fired a gun before?

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Soy hands? That was .454 thats a hand cannon.

[–] 4 pts

a man cannon, that dude clearly wont strong enough or bracing himself properly for that beautiful machine

He definitely won't no more.

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Nope those dudes get scared and die

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Or marry weak women and breed weak kids who become trans

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Guy's body language was screaming "I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO THIS, I'M AFRAID". A good friend/instructor should've picked up on this. Maybe load one bullet at a time until you're sure the guy can maintain control over the weapon, that's how I'd do it.

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I shot a .44 at like 12 years old and it didn't even slip this guys a fairy.

44 with an actual barrel ok it doesn't even have recoil to speak of. This is a short barrel casull

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that's fucked up

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Nobody who has never shooted a gun has any business trying to wrangle a caliber that big first try. Who's the retard who put it in his hand?

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Hahahahahahahahahaha

I don't think I've ever witnessed anything as pathetic as that at any gun ranges here in Australia.

What is that stance? The non-dominant hand is supposed to support the dominant hand's wrist, you don't wrap both hands around the grip like a lady drinking a cup of herbal tea.

Crazy, the sheer momentum of the gun moving freely in his hand was enough to cycle the trigger.

Just missed a headshot.

Said earlier: "I don't need to lift weights to defend myself. I'll just get a gun!"

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I'm looking at this, and just... WTF. Revolvers don't do this. Revolvers can't do this. You'd have to release the trigger at least nearly completely, in order for the cylinder rotating mechanism to catch, then pull the trigger again, which takes quite a bit of force since you're rotating the cylinder as well as cocking the hammer.

After looking more closely, I was thinking, perhaps his alternate hand got caught up in the hammer, pulled it back which rotated the cylinder, then released it, allowing it to discharge. Most modern pistols have internal safeties that prevent this sort of behavior, which you have to disable if you want to speed fire.

After rewatching it a number of times, it doesn't look like he caught the hammer to me. On top of that the muzzle flash for that 2nd shot doesn't appear to be coming from the actual muzzle.

I'm not sure WTF is going on here.

Bu bu bu but my shoot kill ratio on modern warfare is 90%!

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