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[–] 8 pts

So what? That's how science is done, even if this was somewhat simplified. Whether or not the wifi is directly stunting the plants, these kids are learning about the scientific process, and how to critically think about a process. And their next step was to measure and control some of the other variables. If they took it far enough, they could have a very defensible study.

Fraudci and Company don't even allow questioning results, which is anti-science, by definition. So yep, these high school kids are "doing science" better than our government.

[–] 3 pts (edited )

The likely most fruitful approach would be too try to prove their conclusion wrong. Have routers with the radio off. Have them on, with some plants shielded partly with metal. No experiment ever proves anything in the positive sense, but an experiment can show that something is not possible.

Shit, if this really worked, they could set up radio signals outside to prevent weed growth. It would save lots of money.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

Have them on, with some plants shielded partly with metal

How are you going to make sure they get light? I get "partial", but that means you're letting in a bunch of "radiation" too.

Shit, if this really worked, they could set up radio signals outside to prevent weed growth. It would save lots of money.

Depending on how far the affect reaches, that may or may not be practical. I'm pretty sure having a router in the same room doesn't inhibit plant growth. People keep houseplants in the same room as WiFi all the time.

[–] 1 pt

They literally did have a control with the router off. Did you even watch the video?

[–] 0 pt (edited )

No, this kind of thing is garbage, and watching the video confirms, but also I see it's not the Danish one written about years ago which I mistakenly assumed. This one is even more ridiculous. Literally no growth. This thing could revolutionize some industries. Looks like it would keep things sterile. They could put WiFi in hospitals and have no more disease spread.

BTW I meant to have the same setup in both, only some extra metal shielding between the WiFi and plants, so that heat etc. was the same in both.

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If you think that's how science is done, then you don't know science. They are doing some of the elements needed for a controlled experiment, but overall they are not doing it properly. They published this video instead of a video done after they controlled for temperature and humidity. Think about the reasons for that. I bet the discovered that it didn't reproduce the result they wanted or they just didn't do it at all.

these high school kids are "doing science" better than our government.

Now ask them how many genders there are. Trust the science, right?

temperature and humidity

They have them in the same room. Have you ever grown a seed?

experimentation is science.

[–] 0 pt

They have them in the same room. Have you ever grown a seed?

And this is why you don't get it. The router will generate heat when it is on which will also affect the humidity inside the bucket. They are not growing under the same conditions. We also don't know what changed between the soil, moisture content, seeds or general environment when the second batch was grown.

This is why you don't understand what I'm saying. To you it's all the same conditions and you don't question it. That's not science. That's scientism.

[–] 0 pt

The router being on will definitely produce heat. They should have controlled for the moisture level of the soil at the very least. Also 3 days is not a long enough test.