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Fascinating video of a dude talking about his process of leaving the mormon truth.

First, I could be wrong but I bet the real issue there is that he is gay.

Second, it is REALLY interesting how 100% of everything that he talks about is ME, ME, ME and ME. Everything is about me.

Third, it is also really interesting how he talks about the world like a fucking child. The world is beautiful and mysterious and unknowable. Fucking smooth brain.

But, I am looking at the mechanics of LDS and the mechanics of the individual here and they are fascinating. Our species is HIGHLY social, highly compliant species. To control humans you just ask them to do things and threaten to kick them out of the social group. It's mostly what it takes. However, the control is not absolute and the individual co-exists simultaneously with another personality in their head that belongs to the group and handles all of the compliant behaviours.

What is interesting here are the economics of the church vs the economics of the individual to my mind. The thing to remember about the LDS (or any church) that if they are to succeed they are either always accepting new membership (resulting in genetic dilution) or if they are genetically uniform they are designed to increase their numbers and tend to focus heavily on fortifying their defenses. The ones that also have strong offensive strategies have a strong survival strategy.

An individual within such groups of course has to exist in a kind of bargain: their existences is guaranteed by the strength of the group they belong to (in this case the LDS) but to the extent we have individuality you do have to somehow have an opportunity to express that. I can entirely see how utterly suffocating it must be to be in such a system where dissent, argument, thought and so forth are dialed out of the experience in favour of cohesiveness, structure, expectation through submission to the group via religious practices.

But, the most intersting piece of the video is the following: this faggot exchanged survival and family for some preceived notion of freedom and mistery. The thing is, no matter how fast you run, no matter how far your journey takes you, all you have available to you are time, family and your people. The longer you are away the more of those pass eventually culminating to a point where you also come to pass.

See, it wasn't his people that pushed him out. He doesn't talk about abuse or anything of the sort. Instead, he left his people behind. I wonder if he has any understanding that while he believes he has entered a larger world all he has done is left his family and people behind in order to die alone without their love.

It all reads so shallow. He basically exchanged his wealth for a handful of beans.

Fascinating video of a dude talking about his process of leaving the mormon truth. First, I could be wrong but I bet the real issue there is that he is gay. Second, it is REALLY interesting how 100% of everything that he talks about is ME, ME, ME and ME. Everything is about me. Third, it is also really interesting how he talks about the world like a fucking child. The world is beautiful and mysterious and unknowable. Fucking smooth brain. But, I am looking at the mechanics of LDS and the mechanics of the individual here and they are fascinating. Our species is HIGHLY social, highly compliant species. To control humans you just ask them to do things and threaten to kick them out of the social group. It's mostly what it takes. However, the control is not absolute and the individual co-exists simultaneously with another personality in their head that belongs to the group and handles all of the compliant behaviours. What is interesting here are the economics of the church vs the economics of the individual to my mind. The thing to remember about the LDS (or any church) that if they are to succeed they are either always accepting new membership (resulting in genetic dilution) or if they are genetically uniform they are designed to increase their numbers and tend to focus heavily on fortifying their defenses. The ones that also have strong offensive strategies have a strong survival strategy. An individual within such groups of course has to exist in a kind of bargain: their existences is guaranteed by the strength of the group they belong to (in this case the LDS) but to the extent we have individuality you do have to somehow have an opportunity to express that. I can entirely see how utterly suffocating it must be to be in such a system where dissent, argument, thought and so forth are dialed out of the experience in favour of cohesiveness, structure, expectation through submission to the group via religious practices. But, the most intersting piece of the video is the following: this faggot exchanged survival and family for some preceived notion of freedom and mistery. The thing is, no matter how fast you run, no matter how far your journey takes you, all you have available to you are time, family and your people. The longer you are away the more of those pass eventually culminating to a point where you also come to pass. See, it wasn't his people that pushed him out. He doesn't talk about abuse or anything of the sort. Instead, he left his people behind. I wonder if he has any understanding that while he believes he has entered a larger world all he has done is left his family and people behind in order to die alone without their love. It all reads so shallow. He basically exchanged his wealth for a handful of beans.

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Ex mormon here. I too grew up in the mormon church because my mom was insanely indoctrinated just like you see muslims indoctrinated to islam. My dad saw the light first which caused a lot of friction which eventually ended in divorce. My mom never left but continued to become more obsessed to the point that everything in her life revolved around the mormon church.

It's sad that this religious disease destroyed our family... this video brings back all the bad memories.

Seventh Day Advents similar every single part of your life revolves around their doctrine and customs.