Welcome • User Guide
ToS • Privacy • Canary
Donate • Bugs • License

©2026 Poal.co

Fascinating video of a dude talking about his process of leaving the mormon truth.

First, I could be wrong but I bet the real issue there is that he is gay.

Second, it is REALLY interesting how 100% of everything that he talks about is ME, ME, ME and ME. Everything is about me.

Third, it is also really interesting how he talks about the world like a fucking child. The world is beautiful and mysterious and unknowable. Fucking smooth brain.

But, I am looking at the mechanics of LDS and the mechanics of the individual here and they are fascinating. Our species is HIGHLY social, highly compliant species. To control humans you just ask them to do things and threaten to kick them out of the social group. It's mostly what it takes. However, the control is not absolute and the individual co-exists simultaneously with another personality in their head that belongs to the group and handles all of the compliant behaviours.

What is interesting here are the economics of the church vs the economics of the individual to my mind. The thing to remember about the LDS (or any church) that if they are to succeed they are either always accepting new membership (resulting in genetic dilution) or if they are genetically uniform they are designed to increase their numbers and tend to focus heavily on fortifying their defenses. The ones that also have strong offensive strategies have a strong survival strategy.

An individual within such groups of course has to exist in a kind of bargain: their existences is guaranteed by the strength of the group they belong to (in this case the LDS) but to the extent we have individuality you do have to somehow have an opportunity to express that. I can entirely see how utterly suffocating it must be to be in such a system where dissent, argument, thought and so forth are dialed out of the experience in favour of cohesiveness, structure, expectation through submission to the group via religious practices.

But, the most intersting piece of the video is the following: this faggot exchanged survival and family for some preceived notion of freedom and mistery. The thing is, no matter how fast you run, no matter how far your journey takes you, all you have available to you are time, family and your people. The longer you are away the more of those pass eventually culminating to a point where you also come to pass.

See, it wasn't his people that pushed him out. He doesn't talk about abuse or anything of the sort. Instead, he left his people behind. I wonder if he has any understanding that while he believes he has entered a larger world all he has done is left his family and people behind in order to die alone without their love.

It all reads so shallow. He basically exchanged his wealth for a handful of beans.

Fascinating video of a dude talking about his process of leaving the mormon truth. First, I could be wrong but I bet the real issue there is that he is gay. Second, it is REALLY interesting how 100% of everything that he talks about is ME, ME, ME and ME. Everything is about me. Third, it is also really interesting how he talks about the world like a fucking child. The world is beautiful and mysterious and unknowable. Fucking smooth brain. But, I am looking at the mechanics of LDS and the mechanics of the individual here and they are fascinating. Our species is HIGHLY social, highly compliant species. To control humans you just ask them to do things and threaten to kick them out of the social group. It's mostly what it takes. However, the control is not absolute and the individual co-exists simultaneously with another personality in their head that belongs to the group and handles all of the compliant behaviours. What is interesting here are the economics of the church vs the economics of the individual to my mind. The thing to remember about the LDS (or any church) that if they are to succeed they are either always accepting new membership (resulting in genetic dilution) or if they are genetically uniform they are designed to increase their numbers and tend to focus heavily on fortifying their defenses. The ones that also have strong offensive strategies have a strong survival strategy. An individual within such groups of course has to exist in a kind of bargain: their existences is guaranteed by the strength of the group they belong to (in this case the LDS) but to the extent we have individuality you do have to somehow have an opportunity to express that. I can entirely see how utterly suffocating it must be to be in such a system where dissent, argument, thought and so forth are dialed out of the experience in favour of cohesiveness, structure, expectation through submission to the group via religious practices. But, the most intersting piece of the video is the following: this faggot exchanged survival and family for some preceived notion of freedom and mistery. The thing is, no matter how fast you run, no matter how far your journey takes you, all you have available to you are time, family and your people. The longer you are away the more of those pass eventually culminating to a point where you also come to pass. See, it wasn't his people that pushed him out. He doesn't talk about abuse or anything of the sort. Instead, he left his people behind. I wonder if he has any understanding that while he believes he has entered a larger world all he has done is left his family and people behind in order to die alone without their love. It all reads so shallow. He basically exchanged his wealth for a handful of beans.

(post is archived)

You are currently inside a comment thread.
Click here to see all the comments (6).
[–] • 1 pt

This isn't a community, or social group, its religion. And I think you're wrong about the whole gay thing but that's speculation so whatever, it's not the matter I want to address in your synopsis.

So, while I'm not sure you're an atheist or religious, I will say that the modern Atheist outlook on religion is that they are just social groups, and twisted stories to help a group of individuals survive and become the fittest, (Darwin's evolution theory being used on why religion would be useful to a species.)

However, I find it very interesting how he came to the conclusion he did, instead of turning outwards and seeking others to guide him away from the LDS. He turned to the spiritual, and while many Atheists would claim he sought the answer in himself, or his subconscious had simply had enough. An argument can be made that God delivered him away from the lies and to the truth, not all at once, but through dedication and time, then giving him a final revelation at how far he's come to show him what God has been working towards. Both are arguably speculation, and neither can be proven in corporeal terms.

Religion is not a social group but rather, a means to define that which we cannot see or understand. Who are you? are you some dirt that gets a brief existence, only to return to dirt and feed the trees? What created us? were we an accident or planned and molded into existence? Religion is designed to ask these questions of us, and provide answers where it can. Whether you believe these answers are divinely given is the act of being religious, its not about the group, its about the questions and how you get there. If you believe because of the group, then you truly do not believe at all.

And then finally, " I wonder if he has any understanding that while he believes he has entered a larger world all he has done is left his family and people behind in order to die alone without their love." These are your words, and the come from naivety. You have no idea what it is like for the people who are supposed to "love you" to manipulate, threaten, and abuse you. And it is better to cut those kind of people off than continue in their presence. I've been there, my close family has as well, and we are MUCH better off now than ever.

This world is beautiful, yet also very grim and dark, to deny such is a fruitless endeavor. Through this you can understand how a situation can arise where one must abandon seemingly everything to come out on the other side.