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So, was watching Timcast and they starting talking about Oath Keepers and how the guy that started / runs Oathkeepers HAS NOT BEEN RAIDED BY THE FEDS like other people in that organization have been. Sort of like Ray Epps not being indicted despite the video proof.

The summary is, just like the proud boys leader enrique tarrio turned out to be a fed informant, the idea is that the Oath Keepers head is actually a plant by the feds.

So. In the past the 3 letters used to infiltrate various organizations at various levels and try to disrupt groups from the inside and outside basically by setting them up and faking everything.

Now, it looks like they are actually STARTING right wing groups in order to get a bunch of good men to join and then use the same techniques against the tops of those hierarchies in order to completely demoralize our people.

Obviously they have been doing this sort of thing forever. Just pointing out how easy it is becoming to actually figure this shit out.

Imagine being a white man. Employed by your own WHITE government. And being paid to lie and cheat in order to imprison your own kind.

Video links directly to the relevant timestamp. So, was watching Timcast and they starting talking about Oath Keepers and how the guy that started / runs Oathkeepers HAS NOT BEEN RAIDED BY THE FEDS like other people in that organization have been. Sort of like Ray Epps not being indicted despite the video proof. The summary is, just like the proud boys leader enrique tarrio turned out to be a fed informant, the idea is that the Oath Keepers head is actually a plant by the feds. So. In the past the 3 letters used to infiltrate various organizations at various levels and try to disrupt groups from the inside and outside basically by setting them up and faking everything. Now, it looks like they are actually STARTING right wing groups in order to get a bunch of good men to join and then use the same techniques against the tops of those hierarchies in order to completely demoralize our people. Obviously they have been doing this sort of thing forever. Just pointing out how easy it is becoming to actually figure this shit out. Imagine being a white man. Employed by your own WHITE government. And being paid to lie and cheat in order to imprison your own kind.

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[–] • 2 pts (edited )

I have been thinking about this for a while. To my eyes, thinking about anonymity vs vetting are strategic options. Once you start thinking about it as a tool it gets easier to classify things.

The big issue is complexity I think. We can examine the world at various levels of resolution, so at the 10 000 foot level we can group things nicely but as you drill down things get messy.

I think simultaneously operating at various levels of resolution is important. I think complete decentralization and anonymity is a correct layer for some things. I can also think where complete transparency has a place too, with lots of layers in between.

Look, at some point we are going to have to acknowledge there is actually nothing to hide from. We are right. We are just. We are peaceful. We want our women and children to live happy and secure lives. There is NOTHING there that needs anonymity.

The exact opposite is the harsh truth. The fact they have figured out how to make white people hide from them selves in their own country is the real crime.

Building out a the frameworks, thought leadership, shared cultural value systems is where the real fight is and what will allow for everyone to stand proudly and justly.

The ultimate goal is simple: there is no reason to hide in our own home.

We just need to figure out how push forward the leadership willing to pay the price to build out that leading strategic ground.

[–] • 1 pt

Well, the reason to hide is because of being attacked, not out of shame. It's just creating a space where we can build things without them being kicked over while it's only halfway finished.

I agree with your main points though.