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Funny how he gets his ass handed to him by an old woman. She was ahead of her time.

Funny how he gets his ass handed to him by an old woman. She was ahead of her time.

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I know she’s a jew…and I know she misses a lot…but I really like her philosophy. It boils down to “do the best for you without screwing over others.” Or “do your best without being selfish.”

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I know - they have to "tell" us what they're doing and how it is being done, lest their belief in "free will" gets obliterated by forcing people to go down their path.

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And it’s such a one way street. Any attempt to counter their position and you’ suddenly become a ____ist.

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Entirely consistent with satanic ethos.

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being selfish is based tho

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Being selfish is more Jewish than based

Edit to clarify: I think it’s important to draw the distinction between what she refers to as selfish and what I interpret as selfish. She seems to define it as an absence of altruism - doing what’s best for yourself. I think of it more as a lack of backstabbing, or destructive of others in pursuit of bettering yourself.

A good example is Walmart. Initially, under Sam Walton, he strove to provide products to the middle class at reasonable prices. He put competitors out of business along the way, and absorbed others, and he became rich doing it. But his goal was mutually beneficial with the public.

When his heirs took over, they became more parasitic; they used lawyers and unscrupulous contracts to take over their vendors’ businesses. They fired workers for being there too long and making salaries they didn’t want to pay.

In my opinion, I think Ayn’s vision is seen in what Sam Walton did and practiced - it was beneficial to everyone because he provided a service that they needed, and he was compensated and grew rich doing so. His heirs were selfish and took it too far - turning it into a parasitic relationship.

This is turning into more of an essay than I’d intended, but I guess one area that Ayn doesn’t fully comprehend is one that Aldus Huxley did: propaganda. And it is with that propaganda that companies like Walmart …or Amazon, Microsoft, etc. thrive. The masses aren’t intelligent or aware enough to know they’re being duped and led to the slaughter. So it’s not that they have a choice of which product to buy….

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I thought her philosophy was do the best for yourself , and fuck everyone else.

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She objected to the common use of the word "selfish," and used her own definition. So she would (and did) say that you should be selfish, but in the way that she defined it.

Yes and no. It certainly was "do what is best for yourself." As far as "fuck everyone else," that's where the change in era makes it more nuanced.

Imagine you've got a company that makes $X in profit. I think her position is that your company should strive to make the best product possible, so you take your profits and put some back to R&D to improve it so you can sell more. This would be done as opposed to giving it to taxes to help others that "can't help themselves." Your entire purpose as a business is to create the best product to sell the most to make the most so you can sell more so you can make more money for yourself.

Today's bastardization of that is not in line with what she proposes as an ideal state. Today, companies use a portion of the $x in profits to hire lawyers and propagandists to manipulate the playing field such that only they can exist. I think that's where she is lacking in her position - the affect that propaganda has on the market.

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I see where you're coming from but in my opinion any ideology being pushed by a jew cannot be a sustainable one. You can't trust them.

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I'm okay with accepting ideologies that make sense. We have a bad habit of putting those who we agree with on a pedestal, though, and that's where things begin to fail. With Ayn, she's right in much of what she says about business and government: Businesses should do what's best for them and government should butt the fuck out. Beyond that, though, her views on religion and women are not right. The retarded masses expect her views to be 100%, and she gives equal weight to all her positions, which is where it breaks down.

Another more recent example of this Kyle Rittenhouse. We all agreed with his position that we should defend our communities, then people where shocked and let down when he said he supported BLM.

Over and over this happens, and we never learn. We need to get better at saying, "that's a great point," and leaving it at that.

Doing that, I think Ayn Rand has a great point, but I don't trust her (or anyone) enough to give credence beyond what I see on the surface.

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Someone who claims to be selfless is anything but. They are blind to the true motivation for their actions.

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals. -- C. S. Lewis

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What a crazy dream of a fake reality that video is of...

The leftist host giving a warm welcome to a rightist guest??? Not denigrating or chiding or spitting?

He offers his hand and assists as a gentleman to a lady for her climbing the stairs??? Not standing back with arms crossed, he is assisting her to the platform of speech?

What is this charade, this unreality.... this... this... lost America.

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It's comforting in some way to see that women have been insane for a long time. Almost all of the audience who had questions were women, and they were almost all focused on hurling insults in various forms instead of genuine dispassionate inquiry.

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The failing of her philosophy is in the fact that it depends upon the fantasy that individual perfection is something that can be routinely achieved while underestimating the realistic moral weakness of the masses. She insists that “rational selfishness” is the ideal, and she isn’t wrong but the amount of people who are intelligent enough to always make the rational decision and then maintain the constant discipline to carry it out is extremely rare. Yes a prosperous society requires that it’s citizens have a strong sense of free will but firm moral boundaries have to be established by the state. Rand also idealizes the free market. Her symbols of free market idealism are also literally perfect human beings engaged in the most respectable forms of business. But what of the other side of the free market? The pornography? The fast food? The pollution? The pharmaceuticals? The media? Their success in business is dependent upon the ignorance of the masses. Hitler would torch this kike in a debate

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On selfishness, I was surprised that she didn't cover the very basics. If you don't meet your needs yourself, they will still be there and manifest in destructive ways in your interactions with others. It's best if you satisfy yourself directly, then you will have a clear mind to be more effective at whatever you do. The selflessness just encourages everyone to become dependent (in a pathological way) on others.