> Why the hoax Why are you a slave? Because you believe in hoaxes. Masters can only master the enslaved (at scale) and the enslaved can only enslave themselves. The key to ensuring self-enslavement then is to create a hoax that self-enslavement is a requirement of the very human experience. On that regard, I would say that property & income taxation is the greater hoax we need to overcome. It's more fundamental and more pressing than the shape of the Earth. Covid is another grand hoax that would be nice to eliminate but to discredit and dissemenate hoax after hoax is yet another futile exercise that plays into their hand; it plays into the hamster wheel effect of their racket. So they are working on the next hoax as we speak. And so it is the layering effect; they create the endless supply of hoaxes and we are left in a constant flux of conflict amongst ourselves about this hoax or that - extra points if they can keep the grand ones like space or dinosaurs going since those ones will often create the most debate. Meanwhile we can't do shit about the underlying implication of saiid hoax since we are unorganized and opposed with one another. At the very least we can improve ourselves individually and resist believe systems particularly those one deeply seeded & intentionally put there by our masters. I'm just passing along what I know, Poal and the energy in motion here has helped this knowledge come along. > No, I don't assume anything. My house is not round because I can fucking see its box shaped. Just like every other fucking house in my neighborhood. You have contradicted yourself already because you started by proclaiming the assumption the Earth was round cause (assumingly) all the 'planets' are too. Exactly, you can see every other fucking house in your neighboorhood - yet you can't look out your window and 'see' the shape of the Earth so here you rely on assumption, and your feeble mind assumed globe cause you see NASA CG pictures of 3D globes all the time and you jerk off to those and Neil Tyson at night. > No. But the same observations have been made by tens of thousands of people for hundreds of years. Thousands of photos and videos have been taken by tens of thousands of amateurs and professional from all over the world. They are not all in on it. They did not fake every photo and video. Observations, thousands of people, hundreds of years, thousands of photos, all over the world, yadda yadda. But what specifically? You can't just say big numbers or 'lots of people say this' and fool me. If that is your convincing argument then I would have to suspend my actual observable reality to believe you ie- leap of faith; join your cult. But I won't cause I'm not like the sensless sea of NPC believers out there who are woo'ed over the big words you speak of like this. Give me the specifics; the observations you are referring to, the names of all those people, all 1000+ of those photos and videos and then at least I would have some beef to review and analyze for consideration. > https://aaa.org/ > Talk to any one from this group or are they all in on the hoax too? No, you contact them with a specific contention, topic of debate, assumption or a theory if you will (you say flat Earth, but I suggested something more specific because that is already an incorrec fact) - that you want to prove or disprove and then have them agree to engage with us in this debate and invite them to this thread so we can the three of us plan a repeatable experiment to test said theory or assumption. You're the one who is saying they evidently support your side; so kindly bring your supporter to the table and let's proceed. > Every other observable object in the sky moves through space. They've been tracked for millennia. All moving in different directions, speeds and axis and its all on predictable cycles. How was that faked? Who here said that the objects in the sky are not moving in predictable cycles? Why does 'flat earth' imply that the objects in the sky are somehow fake? It was only in recent history that the heliocentric model was contrived (by Freemasons) and before that the ancients understood those same cycles in the sky.