The vaccines are not "poison" and work quite well. These vaccines are no different than any other drugs when it comes to side effects. Water kills far more people each year than these vaccines (pathogens, hyponatremia, contamination).
You're mistaken. You're thinking of the J&J which has been shown to cause blood clots in 41 people. The J&J is a classic vaccine that uses deactivated pieces of the virus. There have been no causal relationships discovered between the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
"The clotting disorder is called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), and it is rare—in 17 million people who got J&J, 54 cases of TTS were reported, 36 of those people were cared for in an intensive care unit, and nine people died (which represents over 15% of cases). Two additional deaths also may be linked to the vaccine. Based on these numbers, the risk appears to be greatest—1 in 100,000—in women ages 30 to 49. This updated CDC recommendation follows similar recommendations from other countries, including Canada and the United Kingdom."
"In terms of timing, all of these cases were identified within two weeks of the person receiving the vaccine."
About 100,000 people die of blood clots a year, in the US. After out tens of millions of doses of J&J and we have 54 cases.
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/coronavirus-vaccine-blood-clots
The other "clot shot" is the AstraZeneca (not a vaccine we use in the US but the UK does). Just like the J&J, they use inactivated virus (what people on poal refer to as "real vaccines").
Do you know where the "mRNA clot shot" thing came from? China. China trying to discredit the mRNA vaccines the US developed. Because they want their new mRNA vaccine to reign supreme. They are working on one.
Do you see? This just one of many talking points just like this that originated from China. You're using Chinese propaganda to inform your opinion.
The vaccines reduce transmission significantly.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2106757
Not a single example of an asymptomatic individual transmitting the virus is known in a controlled scientific way (self-reports do not count). The largest study on this, with 3 million people involved in the study, found 0 cases of asymptomatic transmission of the virus. None.
"There were no positive tests amongst 1,174 close contacts of asymptomatic cases"
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w
Guess who came up with the idea that those who are vaccinated are more likely to spread SARS-CoV-2 when they are asymptomatic? You guessed it: China.
Healthline outlines the reasons why the vaccinated are less likely to transmit the virus even when they are symptomatic:
This is what vaccines have always done and the only people saying that vaccines are supposed to be silver bullets that perfectly protect you against illness are the antivax retards who don't know what vaccines are.
Fact: the vaccinated are 9 times less likely to be hospitalized and 11 times less likely to die from COVID-19 compared to the unvaccinated.
Fact: the majority of those hospitalized are unvaccinated or fully unvaccinated with most of them being completely unvaccinated.
Fact: it appears the rate has leveled off around 82% of COVID-19 patients are the unvaccinated because of the drop off of efficacy of the vaccines after 6 months.
Fact: the boosters are being pushed because they legit work. The US Army came up with a vaccine that targets the mutations very broadly and it may be the "end all, be all" for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. Let's hope this one is safe so we don't have to keep this vaccine war going.
From the data that we do have of only a subset of state: 16.7K died of COVID-19 who were vaccinated. 64.0K unvaccinated died. This is only a subset of states, not all of them. The data is in and the data is overwhelming.
"While federal data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is incomplete, only accounting for a subset of states, the analysis found that between April and November, more than 16,700 vaccinated people had died -- the vast majority since the start of the delta variant's surge, earlier this summer. Similarly, nearly all – approximately 96% -- of the 1.8 million breakthrough cases – have come during the same time period.
Comparatively, in those select states, at least 5.8 million unvaccinated Americans had tested positive, and just under 64,000 unvaccinated Americans had died, during the same time period."
And we know where almost all of those breakthrough cases come from: elderly with chronic health conditions:
In other words, the direct opposite of literally every point you just made.
We have this data for 22 states. Here's Washington State, which has been doing a great job of collecting this data:
Texas does as well:
"Unvaccinated people were 13 times more likely to become infected with COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people.
Unvaccinated people were 20 times more likely to experience COVID-19-associated death than fully vaccinated people."
https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/vaccination-status.aspx
The vaccines are not experimental even a tiny bit - we couldn't use them outside of Phase I or Phase II human trials if they were still experimental. We are passed those stages and all 3 have passed their Phase III human trials making then no longer experimental. They are not gene therapy, either. And before you say it, they are not DNA Vaccines, either. DNA Vaccines are different from mRNA vaccines. Gene Therapy is not a vaccine at all. All 3 are different things. mRNA != DNA and people who keep calling mRNA vaccines "DNA vaccines" or "gene therapy" don't even have a high school understanding of biology.
The vaccines being safe and effective is besides the point of people like you falling for their propaganda. My point is that people like you have fallen for the Chinese propaganda and you keep vomiting your CCP disinformation all over the place. You're literally the instruments of the CCP and you're killing people because of it. Idiots pay attention to those who sound smarter, around them. And then they die because of it.
LOl, Still copy pasting your original nonsense i see. You fail to read the actual literature. I'm not arguing over which vaccine 'might' b worse. The Pfizer literature states 'Blood Clots' as an already known safety signal after Pfizer vaccination - go argue it with the regulators and vaccine manufactures. Bad faith actor.
All Your 'snapshot data' and 'relative case numbers' is incomplete when not alongside 'Absolute' numbers for overall and cumulative comparisons. Whats the Absolute numbers for US case rates ? - the Absolute survival rate for positive case numbers ? - The Absolute number of dead with co-morbities ?. They are the questions you should be presenting for a more truthful analysis. Plus your numbers become wholly out of date next week/ next month - snapshot data -Just Lol. Dishonest/ incomplete presentation of facts - bad faith actor.
You should be presenting the actual real-time World wide tracking statistics available from the CDC and WHO . We've been through this before and other people here on Poal have also told you this. That you are unable to do anything except repeat your copy pasted nonsense proves you as not only a literal vaxx-pushing shill but one who is totally ignorant of how to parse data accurately and truthfully. That you likely took the shot yourself and are trying to get others to take it - also shows your lack of critical thinking skills, and empathy to respect the individual rights of others.
The vaccines are not "poison" and work quite well. These vaccines are no different than any other drugs when it comes to side effects. Water kills far more people each year than these vaccines (pathogens, hyponatremia, contamination).
You're mistaken. You're thinking of the J&J which has been shown to cause blood clots in 41 people. The J&J is a classic vaccine that uses deactivated pieces of the virus. There have been no causal relationships discovered between the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
"The clotting disorder is called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), and it is rare—in 17 million people who got J&J, 54 cases of TTS were reported, 36 of those people were cared for in an intensive care unit, and nine people died (which represents over 15% of cases). Two additional deaths also may be linked to the vaccine. Based on these numbers, the risk appears to be greatest—1 in 100,000—in women ages 30 to 49. This updated CDC recommendation follows similar recommendations from other countries, including Canada and the United Kingdom."
"In terms of timing, all of these cases were identified within two weeks of the person receiving the vaccine."
About 100,000 people die of blood clots a year, in the US. After out tens of millions of doses of J&J and we have 54 cases.
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/coronavirus-vaccine-blood-clots
The other "clot shot" is the AstraZeneca (not a vaccine we use in the US but the UK does). Just like the J&J, they use inactivated virus (what people on poal refer to as "real vaccines").
Do you know where the "mRNA clot shot" thing came from? China. China trying to discredit the mRNA vaccines the US developed. Because they want their new mRNA vaccine to reign supreme. They are working on one.
Do you see? This just one of many talking points just like this that originated from China. You're using Chinese propaganda to inform your opinion.
The vaccines reduce transmission significantly.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2106757
Not a single example of an asymptomatic individual transmitting the virus is known in a controlled scientific way (self-reports do not count). The largest study on this, with 3 million people involved in the study, found 0 cases of asymptomatic transmission of the virus. None.
"There were no positive tests amongst 1,174 close contacts of asymptomatic cases"
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w
Guess who came up with the idea that those who are vaccinated are more likely to spread SARS-CoV-2 when they are asymptomatic? You guessed it: China.
Healthline outlines the reasons why the vaccinated are less likely to transmit the virus even when they are symptomatic:
This is what vaccines have always done and the only people saying that vaccines are supposed to be silver bullets that perfectly protect you against illness are the antivax retards who don't know what vaccines are.
Fact: the vaccinated are 9 times less likely to be hospitalized and 11 times less likely to die from COVID-19 compared to the unvaccinated.
Fact: the majority of those hospitalized are unvaccinated or fully unvaccinated with most of them being completely unvaccinated.
Fact: it appears the rate has leveled off around 82% of COVID-19 patients are the unvaccinated because of the drop off of efficacy of the vaccines after 6 months.
Fact: the boosters are being pushed because they legit work. The US Army came up with a vaccine that targets the mutations very broadly and it may be the "end all, be all" for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. Let's hope this one is safe so we don't have to keep this vaccine war going.
From the data that we do have of only a subset of state: 16.7K died of COVID-19 who were vaccinated. 64.0K unvaccinated died. This is only a subset of states, not all of them. The data is in and the data is overwhelming.
"While federal data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is incomplete, only accounting for a subset of states, the analysis found that between April and November, more than 16,700 vaccinated people had died -- the vast majority since the start of the delta variant's surge, earlier this summer. Similarly, nearly all – approximately 96% -- of the 1.8 million breakthrough cases – have come during the same time period.
Comparatively, in those select states, at least 5.8 million unvaccinated Americans had tested positive, and just under 64,000 unvaccinated Americans had died, during the same time period."
And we know where almost all of those breakthrough cases come from: elderly with chronic health conditions:
In other words, the direct opposite of literally every point you just made.
We have this data for 22 states. Here's Washington State, which has been doing a great job of collecting this data:
Texas does as well:
"Unvaccinated people were 13 times more likely to become infected with COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people.
Unvaccinated people were 20 times more likely to experience COVID-19-associated death than fully vaccinated people."
https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/vaccination-status.aspx
The vaccines are not experimental even a tiny bit - we couldn't use them outside of Phase I or Phase II human trials if they were still experimental. We are passed those stages and all 3 have passed their Phase III human trials making then no longer experimental. They are not gene therapy, either. And before you say it, they are not DNA Vaccines, either. DNA Vaccines are different from mRNA vaccines. Gene Therapy is not a vaccine at all. All 3 are different things. mRNA != DNA and people who keep calling mRNA vaccines "DNA vaccines" or "gene therapy" don't even have a high school understanding of biology.
The vaccines being safe and effective is besides the point of people like you falling for their propaganda. My point is that people like you have fallen for the Chinese propaganda and you keep vomiting your CCP disinformation all over the place. You're literally the instruments of the CCP and you're killing people because of it. Idiots pay attention to those who sound smarter, around them. And then they die because of it.
Notice I don't downvote your comments? Because that's what losers and cowards do. In fact, here, take some upvotes.
Lol. You're entire argument is spam and entirely off topic to the things being discussed. Spamming and repeating the same nonsense over and over is a sign of low IQ bad faith individual unable to address points honesty. Yeah, i should get an upvote for repeatedly wrecking your nonsense copy paste. I don't care if you got the vaxx or not, but you're simply shilling for pfizer and msm. Lol what a retard.
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