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Want to know what happened with the Rudy Giuliani legal cases after the election?

Trump had access to a few legal teams, one of which had Robert Barnes and his experienced lawyers handling the case proposal credibly.

Trump listened to Giuliani who had never tried such a case before, had no experience with such cases and according to his recent deposition in the Eric Coomer case (Coomer is suing Guliani for defamation) Guliani literally admitted that the only evidence that he had was from social media.

Guliani and Sidney Powell were reading Twitter and Facebook posts and guessing their way through the fucking case.

Unbelievable.

Apparently Guliani is a drunk so that I get. I don't understand how someone like Sidney Powell wins for General Flynn and seems to have a good head on her shoulder takes on a case where she just makes up bullshit out of whole cloth and actually believes it.

What a tragedy.

Want to know what happened with the Rudy Giuliani legal cases after the election? Trump had access to a few legal teams, one of which had Robert Barnes and his experienced lawyers handling the case proposal credibly. Trump listened to Giuliani who had never tried such a case before, had no experience with such cases and according to his recent deposition in the Eric Coomer case (Coomer is suing Guliani for defamation) Guliani literally admitted that the only evidence that he had was from social media. Guliani and Sidney Powell were reading Twitter and Facebook posts and guessing their way through the fucking case. Unbelievable. Apparently Guliani is a drunk so that I get. I don't understand how someone like Sidney Powell wins for General Flynn and seems to have a good head on her shoulder takes on a case where she just makes up bullshit out of whole cloth and actually believes it. What a tragedy.

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But Trump picks the best people. Sounds like Trump is a poor judge of competence.

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This has turned out to be absolutely true. He cannot tell competence from incompetence, he cannot tell when he is being played (jews have him wrapped up around their fingers and he has no clue the games they are playing), he has no capacity for leadership or vision as he has never been able to articulate anything of the sort in all of his rallies, and on and on.

Watching his 90's interviews and some of what he said when he ran in 2016, there is a spark there, he know what the problems are he does have a core understanding upon which he can build a vision and a mission statement for his followers.

But at this point, the dude is an empty husk. He has nothing, and he has nobody on his team even remotely capable of anything.

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Remember that his chief of staff was later found to be actively sabotaging his efforts, and was working for the Dems the whole time, so there is some allowance there for his staff being incompetent or adversarial, in the earlier half of his term anyway. Staff were hiding document,s not passing on information, removing papers from his desk, not inviting/informing him to briefings (the intelligence community outright refused to tell him anything), and generally sabotaging Trump at every opportunity. That's not saying fuckwits like Guliani weren't morons that Trump didnt fall for, just explaining some of it.

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Agreed, agreed. I wrote a while back all the positives that we gained from the Trump presidency and how he was surrounded by enemies and had very few moves available to him. The military even ignored his orders and no general was at least demoted/fired, never mind locked up for life.

The problem that I am seeing, 10 months out, I am not seeing the strength in the Trump organization that you need to see. He won't live long enough to really make a big difference, even if he wins in 2024 (which is only guaranteed by communist policies being absolutely devestating, otherwise he stands no chance). He really needs to start building the foundations for a parallel party to the GOP to suck the power out from under the party, collapse it and then have our people push into it with new blood.

I am not seeing the kind of leadership that is required at this point in time.

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This is TOTALLY spot on. Trump has done good things for America, but if he was truly a leader, he would be leading the charge in the audit/vote-fraud investigations. But he is staying on the side-lines waiting until something looks like it will win, just to jump on the bandwagon. If he truly knew there would be vote fraud, he could have easily enacted some surveillance that would have caught it. High quality video cameras in specific locations would be one possibility. His feel-good campaign rallies are not true leadership.

Trump is a mixed bag. I voted for him twice, and would vote for him again, but if people think he is the savior of America, I think they will be sorely disappointed. Trump made a BIG mistake in not draining the swamp like he promised, and that is what really hurt him in the end.

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This kind of post is why I like the members of this site. We have a good protocol for keeping things real and the issues are discussed from lot's of different angles.

We are starting to learn.

What is really interesting about your post is that you also see the strategic complexity of the moves available to us and our side. It also starts to suggest that if we could put together a set of training materials that could be taken, graded and self examined for an individuals in a particular area we could start building up our people giving us the distributed skills that we need to survive in the chaos that is coming our way.

Just like you can become a great plumber or a great electrician, we can train our people to become great tacticians, great analysts, great at history, great at mythology, great at media, great at persuasion, and so forth.

I have been thinking about one area that we really need to start training our people in: species level warfare.

It's not a great name, but, when you start to think in terms of human speciation you get an interesting way to start categorizing humans and start quantifying each of the human species behavioural assets. Once you understand each member of each species is simultaneously and individual enabled by the species level collective, you can start to reason about how and why every member of a species acts the way they do. Once you can start to reason about how individuals of a species behaves you can also start to reason about how a species behaves. Once you get all of that, all of a sudden everything starts to make sense and you can start to see what game we all are playing, what the rules are, how many moves each piece on the table can move and so forth. Once you can reason about how each peace in this game we are playing can move, you can start to see strategy. Once you can see strategy you can start to see and quantify the work that needs to be done to turn the tide.

I can now see the giant machines that our enemies have built in our own lands to turn our children against us, and I can now see that our ancestors were perfectly happy to allow our enemies to build these giant monstrous machines in our lands to turn our children against us.

Note: I wrote the last part down for my self. As we all chat and learn along here, each new lesson lets us see further ahead with more clarity. Thanks for the comment.

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It was settled before the election was over.

All rigged and fixed.

Giuliani was a bag man for 9/11. Hes a bag man today.