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Years ago at a machine gun shoot I got to play with a FA G17... I fired one mag. FA normally puts a big smile on my face. I was 'meh' about the FA Glock. You had to choke the thing like you were a 13 year old boy to keep it from flying out of your hand. I think FA is only useful in long guns... but I will say something even more drastic. I don't think FA handguns are even fun.

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Huh...maybe with practice it'd get better, or if you drop one in one of those you could have a super compact submachine gun. Probably have to mill out room on it for the switch.

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I'll get lots of blowback for this from gunfags, but I suspect the American 180 is one of the most effective combat weapons in existence for short to medium range.

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Except that even the lightweight level II vests will stop .22lr