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I would characterize it as feeble mindedness. What we are witnessing has less to do with safety and more to do with feeble minds. I want to be safe, but I don't rely on others to think on my behalf. I'm well aware of many present dangers, I weigh the risks and decide how to act. I jumped out of plane once for fun. This is inherently dangerous, yet I decided to take the risk anyway.

People who are mask wearers are actually more concerned about conformity than safety. They will do whatever they see other people doing. They have no idea what to do, so they watch what others do. To justify their behavior, they repeat the talking points handed to them by lord Fauci and CNN.

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I respect that but I disagree. People are legitimately terrified of Covid and it's rooted in cowardice. I've literally had several people run away from me when I approach them to avoid getting sick. They are also very cowardly in discourse, they'll use any tactics to avoid actual discourse. And these Antifa/BLM types are all cowards too, they only fight when they outnumber people 20 to 1, otherwise they run away screaming for their lives. It's all rooted in cowardice. The entire premise of socialism and communism is guaranteed safety. Medicare for all, universal basic income, minimum wage, all of it revolves around security and safety.

Everyone considers security and safety but it should never be your #1 concern, because the world is inherently risky and unsafe. The proper argument is for calculated risk. And people in the west don't understand this, because they don't even view the world in terms of risk.

And those people are the most degenerate gamblers of all. Just go to Wallstreet bets and look at how many of the posters are students loaded with student loan debt, often even gambling with it, and undoubtedly liberal. They are the same ones who will turn around and demand a bailout and say it's "unfair".

Because they don't view the world in terms of risk at all. They want to be treated like adolescents, and if they engulf themselves in flame then it's everyone elses fault for not stopping them, and it's everyone elses job to make things right.

Feebleness is a side-effect of the cowardice they embrace. They will burn you alive to save themselves.

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You and I think along the same line.

People are afraid. I agree. I simply believe they are afraid because they are told to be afraid. Consider that viruses have been around since humanity began. So what changed? Only that some elites have an agenda and scaring people to act and behave a certain way is in their interest.

I'm scared too, but not from a virus. I'm afraid of the oligarchs who are ruling us. I don't know what their next move is. I can come up with general ideas but we are no longer a representative republic but a full blown feudal society under fascist rule.

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So what changed? Only that some elites have an agenda and scaring people to act and behave a certain way is in their interest.

Well, older civilizations actually regularly purged and killed cowards. I think what changed is that tyrants realized that protecting these people is the easiest way to subjugate a nation.

These aren't the "same people" as our ancestors who have just been scared into conformity. They are people who in older times would've been beaten within an inch of death, exiled, challenged to combat, etc.

My brother is a perfect example. The way he treats my mom, the rest of us have laid him the fuck out multiple times and he always has 911 on speed-dial. Without the protection of the state, people like him would sing a much different tune. And he is the only liberal in our family.

In essence, the oligarchs you mentioned are doing everything they can to disable civilizations natural immune system, which naturally takes offense to injustice and cowardice, and naturally seeks to resolve it.

For example, eating raw eggs. Salmonella is ALWAYS present EVERY TIME you eat a raw egg, but a healthy immune system will almost always disperse of it. It's when the immune system is compromised, for example an old woman who ate cookie dough, that's when infection sets in.

So this malicious bacteria is always there, always in society, but has no ability to infect it's host, unless the immune system is compromised. Which is what has happened.

That's what changed between then and now, in my opinion.

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"Those who trade liberty for safety will have neither." Applies here 100%. At first I was a little more willing to play along because "Hello, biological weapon release, act of war, better take it seriously." but even a few months out (never mind 2 years) we quickly crossed into obvious "911 style security theater" and "never let a good tragedy go to waste" territory. Cold war with the soviets centralized our government and empowered the deep state and the feds. Cold war with the Chinese will eradicate the bill of rights.

As for who is right here I would say a little column A and a little column B. The fear is real but without the kike on TV it would quickly abate. In the early days I was buying water, dried meat and learning to play "Don't Fear The Reaper" but you can only live that way for so long in fear of what amounts to a nasty flu, once the promised death and destruction fails to manifest again and again. I went to a crowded indoor venue in nigger-opolis about 2 weeks ago and nobody got sick. The fear and propaganda are both necessary to alter the public mindset and advance globo-socialist-bankster tyranny.

I was the same way. I saw the SHTF in China and I took it very seriously. But then after watching the shit show of people killing each other for toilet paper and nothing happening I was pretty much over it. None of these people realize that if the threat was everything it was made out to be, they all already would've been fucked by the time they figured out that food is actually a good thing to stock up on, since you won't need to wipe your ass at all if you starve to death.

It's incredibly fascinating to me. I never would've imagined people could be worked into such a frenzy on such a massive scale for such a long period of time over absolutely fucking nothing.

It taught me that I really have no idea how other people think. I thought I had a rough idea, but I really don't.