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Ever had food prices so high that the bottom 30% of the population can barely afford food or literally starve? No? It used to happen all the time. I'm not praising the focus on corn, imo it's disgraceful. But call it an excuse or not, combined with modern farming subsidies have worked for nearly a hundred years and saved countless American lives.

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Ever had food prices so high that the bottom 30% of the population can barely afford food or literally starve? No? It used to happen all the time.

When? The only time that used to happen in european history was when there were wars, plagues or crop failures so extensive all food production was affected. Subsidies aren't going to stop that. And even if things do get that bad you're still going to be paying the subsidy you can't afford. The cost just gets hidden.

But call it an excuse or not, combined with modern farming subsidies have worked for nearly a hundred years and saved countless American lives.

I highlighted the relevant section. Mechanisation and improved farming methods are what have made food cheap, not central planning.

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The only time that used to happen in european history was when there were wars, plagues or crop failures so extensive all food production was affected. Subsidies aren't going to stop that.

European history is almost a full time war. And plagues and crop failures were common too. But that aside, what subsidies do is ensure there is twice the cropland America needs. If half the country fails to produce the other half can keep us (if not the rest of the world) fed. You probably missed the news the last few times there were bad crop yields. You missed them because all the suffering happened outside American borders.

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European history is almost a full time war. And plagues and crop failures were common too.

Not everywhere at the same time. Massive food deficits were not the norm in peacetime.

But that aside, what subsidies do is ensure there is twice the cropland America needs.

And it ensures that the people determining how that surplus is managed are jews in washington. Ya know, the same people who say that if there's a serious crisis, Israel comes first, America second. Meanwhile, preppers build up a surplus without needing subsidies and without central planning. Given the choice between a supply of nutritious canned goods stocked in my own shelter and an everlasting supply of soy and bugmeat, I know which one I prefer.

Plus, as I said before, the reason food production is so efficient now is because of improvements in technology, not enlightened central planners. Food would be cheap and easily stockpiled even if they ended subsidies tomorrow.

You probably missed the news the last few times there were bad crop yields. You missed them because all the suffering happened outside American borders.

Hardly. Most of the surplus gets soaked up by waste and higher prices in a few niche products.