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I don't know how to straddle the difference between religion being so rigid as to not allow for any deviation and the need for humans to leave / explore / make mistakes and return home as free men.

But I do know that some aspects of religious / ritual / mythological frameworks provide guidance to the in group on how to grow from childhood to responsibility and finally to the grave.

Those two videos are AMAZING examples of what happens when there is a total dislocation between the individual and the structure. People like Matty end up looking for that struture and find it in total and abject degeneracy.

[Link Title](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvqTC4nQkog) ... and ... [Link Title](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYsgd_8AFoo) I don't know how to straddle the difference between religion being so rigid as to not allow for any deviation and the need for humans to leave / explore / make mistakes and return home as free men. But I do know that some aspects of religious / ritual / mythological frameworks provide guidance to the in group on how to grow from childhood to responsibility and finally to the grave. Those two videos are AMAZING examples of what happens when there is a total dislocation between the individual and the structure. People like Matty end up looking for that struture and find it in total and abject degeneracy.

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[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Rumspringa is amongst many things that the Amish do right. I don't necessarily subscribe to any religion but their approach makes perfect sense. They're raised with a religious belief and a sense of a tight knit community but then after reaching young adulthood they're allowed to go and experience the world for themselves. There is no real time set for the duration of rumspringa, they can even live a worldly life and still be part of the community UNTIL they get baptized and give their life to their god. IIRC their retention rate is around 90%, meaning that given the option of "freedom/degeneracy" most will return to be part of the community/religion they grew up with.

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Funny you mention that. I have thought for a long time that it would be great if we could re-introduce such an idea to our people and see if we can integrated it into our cultures somehow.

Their approach has the benefit of rigid structure for those that need it, freedom for those that need that and responsibility for those that need that.

That is a GREAT point.