I had the internet and I had been using it to research questions about my family's church
Mormon or JW?
SDA. Get this, the founders of Mormons, SDA and JW all knew each other, and were all connected to the Masons. EGW's cousin was married to Joseph Smith. Ellen G. White had her husband buried under a Masonic obelisk. I'll let you look that up on your own as it will feel more real to you. James and Ellen White had a painting commissioned that's still displayed at General Conference headquarters. Right in the middle is the all seeing Masonic eye, same as on the dollar bill. The founder of JW is also buried under some sort of Masonic obelisk.
You might have trouble finding this one so I did it for you.
As a recovering Mormon myself, please accept my virtual hug - none of that surprises me, but I'm going to look into everything you shared tomorrow
Edit: holy shit that link lol
So, before I get to my point, let me just say that I'm not going to deny whatever evidence you have of JW, LDS, and SDA descending from a Masonic conspiracy and I find this thread very interesting. Its why I'm responding to the two of you. My questions are in good faith.
Practically speaking, does it even matter? Look around you. Do you see any other cohesive groups of people of largely Euro descent who are living within a moral framework and a community that is not corrosive to the continuance of their immediate family and, on a longer time frame, their entire bloodline? Perhaps you've had some terrible experience -- I won't deny that possibility -- but zoom out a bit. Would it not be better to take a community that, at least at the level of the common person, is least-bad and try to turn it away from corrupted leadership?
If not, what's the alternative? Where else do you start? This is a very front-of-mind topic in my life right now. I'd explain why but I don't really trust this site isn't a honeypot and I try not to minimize dox-able info.
I do have something more to add. Check the images and the context of those images and I have a question you may want to answer if you can find the answer. I maybe lack the skills to answer it myself. https://rachelheldevans.com/blog/ask-a-seventh-day-adventist-response
This image is from the Library of Congress
So, my question would be, did the SDA church change the image or is the one in the Library of Congress the original? I'm thinking the SDA church changed the image because too many people are aware of the significance of that "All Seeing Eye" and it's connection to the occult.
There's lots more sketchy stuff in the SDA church. Obviously, I've only given a small glance at the Mormon church because of the relationship between the church founders. I've had much more interest in the founding of the SDA church and where they are today and how they deliberately practice subtle forms of mind control on their congregation which is still going on today.
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