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This is how I know that study is manipulated bullshit and reality is worse than it claims:

"Based on antibody testing of blood donors, 98.7% of the adult population now have antibodies to COVID-19 from either infection or vaccination compared to 24.1% that have antibodies from infection alone."

Fucking antibodies to COVID aren't that important. There's also t-cell immunity. They have their head up their ass.

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This is not a study just a report.

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If more people are vaccinated therefore there will be more deaths within that group

1000 deaths in a group of 50M is less significant than 400 deaths from a group of 5M

why do these /subs keep ignoring that and repost the same guff every day?

The only thing I've learnt from all this is that tracking of simple population data is really poor, in the order of millions of people whose status is unknown. We should fix that.

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Even if we normalize to per capita rates, the two groups are not the same. The vaccinated group is older than the average population, so we would expect them to die at higher rates. Any analysis that treats the two groups as if they were the same is worthless since the causal connection is unclear.

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I wonder what happened to those people simulations that they used to do for fire safety? like you have a bunch of people milling around and X number die of smoke inhalation because the number of exits were insufficient. They should do the same thing for covid stats.

Governments keep printing the dry stats of vax/unvax deaths and do apparently nothing to counter this manipulation

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It's why experiments have control groups. You randomly split a group in two and only change one variable. Without a control group there is always reasonable doubt as to the cause of the difference between the two groups. It's why they vaxxed the control groups in the vax trials. Without a control group you can't prove the harm vaccines are doing.

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1000 deaths from the deadliest disease known to man that's going to kill us all, in a sample size of 50M is, as you say, not significant.

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I think that was per 100K? so 153K deaths in the UK for covid, vs 30K for flu

nobody is saying that it's going to kill us all, just that if something is very infectious then it could have potentially affected everyone globally within a few months if we had done nothing. That's the R0 value they mentioned at the start of this, 1.3 for flu, up to 6 for covid

Like most old people go get a flu jab because they don't want to die from an air filled lung, same for dying of covid. It doesn't matter what the risk is, or the death numbers, people just want to die of something else

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I was using your example, but the numbers predicted at the beginning of this mess were quite high. They came from some UK "Scientist" who had been wrong and discredited on every other account, but the powers that be ran with the example.

Old people are fucking stupid. I used to look up to my parents as someone who could see through the bullshit - if I'd told them I was sick when i was a kid but there wasn't any symptoms they would have told me to get my ass out of bed and go to school. Now? My father is so cowed that he almost cried to me "I don't want to die!" when I told him you're taking a risk getting this third shot, especially with known heart problems and cancer.

Yeah, I thought you were smarter than that. I guess I was wrong.